[Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Harv23
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[Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Respraying car and the cars in bits and just put finger through sill does anybody know some one that could come out and repair or some one that very close to Luton lu4 or should I just fibreglass repair it to get it finished and mot done
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Fibreglass can not and should not EVER be used on sills.

The area that will need replacing will be larger than the hole you've made and may even require inner sill work as well.

I doubt you'll find anyone that'll do it on your driveway that is worth their salt.

Find a local welder/bosyshop that is reputed and have a word with them.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Harv23 wrote:Respraying car and the cars in bits and just put finger through sill does anybody know some one that could come out and repair or some one that very close to Luton lu4 or should I just fibreglass repair it to get it finished and mot done


I warn you in advance I had both inner and outer sills custom made (as they are part of the rear quarter and cannot be purchased on their own) and its not cheap. If memory serves correct it was around 4-500 per side for it all to be cut out, rust treated, new ones fabricated and fitted and then sprayed to match.

As Peter said do not under any circumstance fibreglass them

If your going to get them done, do it properly :thumleft:

By the way under the new mot rules this area gets checked very carefully so make sure it's done by someone you trust who doesn't just plate over the top of it :D

If the sill is that bad you put your finger through it I'd suggest that you get the car properly looked at to assess how much rust there is and get a proper quote accordingly :thumleft:
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400 to 500 pounds? :shock: Seems step could buy the hole rear quarter for that and a welder :-k and still have money left over
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Harv23 wrote:400 to 500 pounds? :shock: Seems step could buy the hole rear quarter for that and a welder :-k and still have money left over


Yup circa 4-500 a side. Dont forget that you have to have them custom made and most of what your paying for is labour costs.

At a real push you may be able to get a cheap welder and x2 rear quarters for that price. However, bear in mind then you have to spend numerous hours doing it yourself not to mention spraying it up professionally. In the long term that method is a lot more expensive.

Theres no cheap or easy way around having the sills replaced. If they need to be replaced they need to be done :thumleft:
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Harv23 wrote:400 to 500 pounds? :shock:


About right for outer sill, inner sill, whaeelarch section behind rear sill, prep and painting.

Harv23 wrote:could buy the hole rear quarter for that and a welder :-k and still have money left over


Yep, another option. Don't let us hold you back. :D
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Got toms side skirts going on so just got to be strong not pretty, sheet metal or other cars sills?
Rear quarters would be good could really stretch it out then for massive wheel widths but already brought wheels ](*,)
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Harv23 wrote:Got toms side skirts going on so just got to be strong not pretty, sheet metal or other cars sills?
Rear quarters would be good could really stretch it out then for massive wheel widths but already brought wheels ](*,)


Ford KA sills are meant to fit, although I've heard they take a lot of fiddling
I've also heard that MKIV Astra sills fit although I've never seen anything to confirm this, so I'd take that one with a pinch of salt

All in all they will take a bit of messing around with, and will never be as good a fit as cutom made ones.

Don't forget you have prep, paint, etc... work on top of everything else


If your going to all the work of replacing them; why not do it properly??
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Broke all the rust away about 12" from rear forward and inners gone too about 2" so body shop it is :cry: Only need sill sorting can fill and paint my self any body know good place in Luton
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Harv23 wrote:Broke all the rust away about 12" from rear forward and inners gone too about 2" so body shop it is :cry: Only need sill sorting can fill and paint my self any body know good place in Luton


Can you post some pics? Just want to know how bad mine are comparitively.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Racer7 wrote:
Harv23 wrote:Broke all the rust away about 12" from rear forward and inners gone too about 2" so body shop it is :cry: Only need sill sorting can fill and paint my self any body know good place in Luton


Can you post some pics? Just want to know how bad mine are comparitively.


Mine looked completely solid it was only when sanding it sounded bad so I tryed pushing on it and and found a soft bit and went through never posted pics but I try later
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Can I cut away the outer sill with out supporting the doors t bar model
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Harv23 wrote:Can I cut away the outer sill with out supporting the doors t bar model


Yes
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
Harv23 wrote:Can I cut away the outer sill with out supporting the doors t bar model


Yes


Thanks cut it back today see how bad it is
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Racer7 wrote:
Harv23 wrote:Broke all the rust away about 12" from rear forward and inners gone too about 2" so body shop it is :cry: Only need sill sorting can fill and paint my self any body know good place in Luton


Can you post some pics? Just want to know how bad mine are comparitively.


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After breaking away with hands
Harv23
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Is this worth patching not even surface rust on inside of where I've cut up to
:-k
Harv23
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Sod it I'm gonna go for it replace the hole lot my self post pics as I go
Shopping list so far please point out if I've missed something
Mig welder, mask, gloves etc
Clamps, Cutters, nibbler, hammer set, mild steel 1mm?

Wanted to do body work myself y chicken out now :lol:
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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+ fire extinguisher :lol:
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Looking forward to seeing the progress pictures when you start repairing this?
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Help sill gone rotten

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Harv, u made progress with this yet? my sills are getting bad i expect them to look a bit like yours underneath, would love to try do it myself but lacking expertise and equipment
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