Rev2 tubby vs 911 GT2

[Olly P]

I'm cruising along the A24(?) past Rykers at Boxhill, Surrey, when I see the familiar front of a 911 two cars behind.

Next thing I know, he's undertaken the car behind me and pulls up along side on the left. He gives a cheeky look over and boots it.

Down into second I go, and the turbo pulls like a train. He's got the run on me as we approach the first twin-laned roundabout. Round we go, but he's taken it a lot more conservatively than me and I find myself sneeking up the inside, tyre struggling for grip on the bumpy tarmac, and out the other side. Foot hard down and into third, I can see the dark blue GT2 pull past me on the inside again. He's got the power over mine, but he's not gaining like I thought he would. Before we brake for the next roundabout, he's three car lengths (about 1/5 mile between roundabouts).

Again he brakes earlier than me and takes it slower. I'm on his bumper coming out but again he pulls a few car lengths ahead by the tonne.

At this point I know he's not going to be caught so I back right off, and am greeted with a flash of his hazzards.

[Quigonjay]

considering the gt2 model is the twin turbo nearly 500hp version i'd have to say he was toying with you

[Graeme Shaw]

Steve Cordiner hammered one at Elvington a year or so back in his rev 2 turbo.
He was running about 255 brake.

Graeme

[Lauren]

Steve Cordiner hammered one at Elvington a year or so back in his rev 2 turbo.
He was running about 255 brake.

Graeme

I doubt it was a genuine GT2 then. Either that or he was just pootling round.

[LimeyMk1]

Steve Cordiner hammered one at Elvington a year or so back in his rev 2 turbo.
He was running about 255 brake.

Graeme

I doubt it was a genuine GT2 then. Either that or he was just pootling round.

If it was the Elvington track day I went to, there was a Poker there and I had a look at his tyres afterwards. They were only slightly scuffed so yeah he was pootling (although he claimed he wasn't ).

Considering the abrasiveness of Elvington track and the cost of Porsche tyres, I'd take it easy as well!

[Olly P]

considering the gt2 model is the twin turbo nearly 500hp version i'd have to say he was toying with you

But bear in mind they're only 12s 1/4 mile. Now, if I'm a car length ahead when we floor it, and he's two or three ahead after 1/5 mile, that would easily equate to a couple of seconds ahead over a 1/4 mile, so I'd say he was gunning it.

He still beat me convincingly, I just always get a buzz when an £80k car wants to have a play.

[Lauren]

If it was the Elvington track day I went to, there was a Poker there and I had a look at his tyres afterwards. They were only slightly scuffed so yeah he was pootling (although he claimed he wasn't ).

Considering the abrasiveness of Elvington track and the cost of Porsche tyres, I'd take it easy as well!

Who in their right mind would take a porsche to elvington?

[Graeme Shaw]

Was a quarter mile run.

Steve was running low 12`s i think.

Graeme

[Lauren]

Was a quarter mile run.

Steve was running low 12`s i think.

Graeme

Sorry i thought it was an airfield day... not straightline junkie stuff.

[fizz]

Ive had a play anainst a GT3 at the nur and there wasnt much in it. The Porka driver wasnt the quickest driver and was new to the car but on some stretches he couldn't gain on me.

http://mr2oc.net/mr2ocadmin/video/Porsc ... _Turbo.wmv

I was quite chuffed actually. My tubby was pushing 252bhp and 275 lb-ft torque.

[Bibbs]

It was only a GT3 engine in a normal 996 wasn't it Fizz?

And yeah, he was taking it VERY easy ..

The GT2 is another level in performance.

(and the video of a guy with a strong oriental accent chatting to a geordie is funny as fook)

[fizz]

It was only a GT3 engine in a normal 996 wasn't it Fizz.

And yeah, he was taking it VERY easy ..

(and the video of a guy with a strong oriental accent chatting to a geordie is funny as fook)

I think so or... the 4S engine in the shell of a GT3... one or the other if i remember correctly.

And yes... he is a funny bu88er. I had to lower the volume a couple of times when my little cousins wanted to watch the vid.

The toe rag had enough of me taking the mick outta him and has traded it in for a 996 turbo. Said he had to up the ante on us mr2 lads..

[Bibbs]

I think so or... the 4S engine in the shell of a GT3... one or the other if i remember correctly.

The toe rag had enough of me taking the mick outta him and has traded it in for a 996 turbo. Said he had to up the ante on us mr2 lads..

Think it was the GT3 in the 4s .. still, not a shabby car
996 turbo .. damn. Still waiting for the lotto win so I can got to Nur in a 997 GT3 RS.

[ben25]

If it was an original GT2 he must have been toying with you. I tried chasing one in my 260 bhp MG and he took off like I was standing still. No way was he trying.

[Lauren]

If it was an original GT2 he must have been toying with you. I tried chasing one in my 260 bhp MG and he took off like I was standing still. No way was he trying.

DING.

We had a GT2LM car at a trackday at magny cours a couple of years ago. The closing speed this car had was frightening.... you would be driving along at a fair lick then all of a sudden your mirrors were full of white Porsche. First it would appear as a spec in your mirror, then all of a sudden he was about 3 ft from your bumper.

I've not been in a GT2, but i've been in a GT3RS round the Ring in damp conditions. The performance of these is other wordly, it left me speechless. No way any MR2 could even hope to get anywhere near one of these in any performance aspect in all honesty.

[Antstarr]

If it was an original GT2 he must have been toying with you. I tried chasing one in my 260 bhp MG and he took off like I was standing still. No way was he trying.

DING.

We had a GT2LM car at a trackday at magny cours a couple of years ago. The closing speed this car had was frightening.... you would be driving along at a fair lick then all of a sudden your mirrors were full of white Porsche. First it would appear as a spec in your mirror, then all of a sudden he was about 3 ft from your bumper.

I've not been in a GT2, but i've been in a GT3RS round the Ring in damp conditions. The performance of these is other wordly, it left me speechless. No way any MR2 could even hope to get anywhere near one of these in any performance aspect in all honesty.

Not that im trying to knock it, It just seems like you overrate the car a bit Lauren....if any1 was to spend 70-110k on a car for track/fast road use of course your gonna expect it go faster than a MR2 turbo.
But then again a Porsche 911's competition is more against a NSX-R/Skyline/Supra level.
You brag on about the GTRS3 so much but if I was to line that car up against a Mines Skyline, Nismo Z-tune, Mugen NSX's etc...I dont think it will be anything special, just another face in the crowd, maybe not even so good.

[Lauren]

Not that im trying to knock it, It just seems like you overrate the car a bit Lauren....if any1 was to spend 70-110k on a car for track/fast road use of course your gonna expect it go faster than a MR2 turbo.
But then again a Porsche 911's competition is more against a NSX-R/Skyline/Supra level.
You brag on about the GTRS3 so much but if I was to line that car up against a Mines Skyline, Nismo Z-tune, Mugen NSX's etc...I dont think it will be anything special, just another face in the crowd, maybe not even so good.

I don't over-rate it. Save your viewpoint until you've been in one.

A GT3RS is far above a Skyline, or a Supra(!) its in another world. A GT3RS is very, very special. I'm sorry but Jap manufacturers can only dream about making a car as good as the GT3RS. I totally disagree, the GT3RS sets the benchmark by a long way.

I've driven a GTR spec Skyline. Yes it was impressive, but not in the same league as the porker by any means.

Yes of course you cannot compare a GT3RS to an MR2 Turbo, its laughable. Comparing a Supra to one is still laughable tbh.

[Antstarr]

Not that im trying to knock it, It just seems like you overrate the car a bit Lauren....if any1 was to spend 70-110k on a car for track/fast road use of course your gonna expect it go faster than a MR2 turbo.
But then again a Porsche 911's competition is more against a NSX-R/Skyline/Supra level.
You brag on about the GTRS3 so much but if I was to line that car up against a Mines Skyline, Nismo Z-tune, Mugen NSX's etc...I dont think it will be anything special, just another face in the crowd, maybe not even so good.

I don't over-rate it. Save your viewpoint until you've been in one.

A GT3RS is far above a Skyline, or a Supra(!) its in another world. A GT3RS is very, very special. I'm sorry but Jap manufacturers can only dream about making a car as good as the GT3RS. I totally disagree, the GT3RS sets the benchmark by a long way.

I've driven a GTR spec Skyline. Yes it was impressive, but not in the same league as the porker by any means.

Yes of course you cannot compare a GT3RS to an MR2 Turbo, its laughable. Comparing a Supra to one is still laughable tbh.

Hmm the GTR Spec is only standard, its not even tuned...you would compare a GTR to a 911 turbo not the tuned one your talking about.
If you take a japanese (proper) tuned car worth the 80-100k mark its going to be very fast.
A Nismo Z tune skyline is a ultimate weapon which has been detuned and restricted to 500bhp and made for handling as well as power. If I slapped 40k on an Evo 9 FQ-400 (which stays with a Murcielago easily) it would be amazing.

Watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8vAxzLApPs

Its 2 proper tuned JDM cars...hence the Skyline is not running very high power, imagine if it was. Ill come back to this..im on lunch

[Lauren]

Hmm the GTR Spec is only standard, its not even tuned...you would compare a GTR to a 911 turbo not the tuned one your talking about.
If you take a japanese (proper) tuned car worth the 80-100k mark its going to be very fast.
A Nismo Z tune skyline is a ultimate weapon which has been detuned and restricted to 500bhp and made for handling as well as power. If I slapped 40k on an Evo 9 FQ-400 (which stays with a Murcielago easily) it would be amazing.

Watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8vAxzLApPs

Its 2 proper tuned JDM cars...hence the Skyline is not running very high power, imagine if it was. Ill come back to this..im on lunch

The trouble is though you can't compare what some small tuning company can do to what a manufacturer can do such as Porsche. The GT3RS is a production model, so it comes out of the factory like that.

Fast is one thing but how it stacks up as a complete package is quite another. Its dead easy to slap big turbos on etc and yes it may be fast (in a straightline at least) but at some point you risk going over the limits of what the chassis is designed for.

So yes you could slap 40K worth of bits on an EVO, but would it be good as a GT3RS? Probably not, but then the GT3RS is not based on a repmobile chassis. Therein lies the difference.

[luthor1]

Yeah - Nismo, they are a real tuppeny-hapenny outfit!