All over for G164 CKV... didn't make the moon after all.

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Marf wrote:I love my brick!


You have a favourite brick? There's a wall I prefer over others, but I'm not ready to announce marry it any time soon :mrgreen:
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Magic Beans wrote:
Marf wrote:I love my brick!


You have a favourite brick? There's a wall I prefer over others, but I'm not ready to announce marry it any time soon :mrgreen:


I'm guessing you've never watched Father Ted then??
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Draven wrote:
Magic Beans wrote:
Marf wrote:I love my brick!


You have a favourite brick? There's a wall I prefer over others, but I'm not ready to announce marry it any time soon :mrgreen:


I'm guessing you've never watched Father Ted then??


I knew what he meant :wink:
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Magic Beans wrote:
Marf wrote:I love my brick!


You have a favourite brick? There's a wall I prefer over others, but I'm not ready to announce marry it any time soon :mrgreen:


A wall?!

Sorry I'm not into group sex or polygamy [-X


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Magic Beans wrote:
Draven wrote:
Magic Beans wrote:

You have a favourite brick? There's a wall I prefer over others, but I'm not ready to announce marry it any time soon :mrgreen:


I'm guessing you've never watched Father Ted then??


I knew what he meant :wink:


http://www.myspace.com/video/contributo ... ck/5262587

:mrgreen:
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I'll ask again, is the cars charging system working fine now?
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there's been so many twist and turns in the thread you could make a film about it :lol:
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MR2 The Final Frunkier!
No 2 :(
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Just popping back for a final update to this thread for those who are still interested and to correct those who cannot sort the facts from fiction or are just choosing to ignore the actual facts... Oldskoolhardcore and Marf this means you.
This did NOT start with Luke changing a starter motor. I don't mind an opinion but you are just posting inaccuracies rather than making any attempt at addressing the actual facts as I have had to. Again I have to point out that whilst you are keen to pour contempt on the conclusions I have reached you've put forward none of your own. You've furnished no explanation for the sequence of events as far as I can ascertain. Nor for Lukes silence on the matter to me who was his paying customer, indeed you praise his silence. I trust when it's your turn you will be just as temperate.

Sorry for my language those who have complained they can't understand it... it's English and I've actually said and implied just want I intended to.

Car has now completed another 300 miles or so and gone through multiple daily start ups and is driving and charging just fine. Finally my thanks once again to Pan Autos for sorting everything for me.

R.
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Rob, i've asked you twice now and you've ignored me, how did they fix the charging issue by just replacing the starter motor?

I'd like to know the answer to that given Luke has been blamed for everything based on you paying for a charging fault to be fixed and subsequently blaming him for everything else.

So please explain how a starter motor fitment fixed the charging issue, clearly it cannot, so either the garage fixed that too or Luke is clear of any blame, it can't be both.
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HighwayStar wrote:You've furnished no explanation for the sequence of events as far as I can ascertain.


Why would I bother when you'd just dismiss it? You talk about my and others ignorance of the facts yet when you are economical with events, how can anyone proffer a solution in that environment?

There's little point in engaging with you about it to be frank.

Prove me wrong, answer Paul. :)
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HighwayStar wrote:
Car has now completed another 300 miles or so and gone through multiple daily start ups and is driving and charging just fine. Finally my thanks once again to Pan Autos for sorting everything for me.

R.



Fantastic news, so what was wrong with the car? I'm pretty sure all of us in this thread, in which you stated car was dead and a trader killed it, would love to know this ? You were pretty vocal before, how about shedding some light on this mysterious coming back to life ? You asked to reopen this thread, how about we close it with a bombshell :)
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100% agree, not only does this need closure to satisfy everyone who has been following, but if all that was ever wrong was a faulty starter motor then Lukes name needs clearing of any blame. Rob was previously saying a charging fault had caused a short in the harness, and that the engine had failed as a result of that, blaming Luke for the alternator issue which is at the root of everything. After all the charging issue is the only reason the car went to him in the first place.

It's mechanically impossible for a starter motor fault to cause a charging issue ( i say impossible, but again if i stretch the boundaries of mechanical imagination to the extreme there is an obscure link.... if the starter was to become permanently meshed with the flywheel, it "could" in theory then turn from being a motor into a generator, a generator with no regulator pumping amps back into the battery, so there is a very tenuous link, just as tenuous as a faulty alternator siezing an engine i may add!)

Even if you consider the above a remote possibility it still isn't Lukes fault if all the car had was a faulty starter.

Rob you need to set the record straight at the very least.
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HighwayStar wrote:Talk about everything but that which is material why don't you all. Let me be clear....
I have been asking about it for a month with no reply. In that time countless calls and texts have been ignored and still this issue hasn't been addressed.



Sounds familiar, happened to me when i paid for some lower arms, iirc took 2 or 3 months to get my money back! ignored PMs on imoc, no reply to emails, left answerphone messages and txts on his phone with no reply. Iirc i got through on 3 occasions, first time he said the arms are on there way with his dads "courier company", few weeks on, 2nd sucessfull call he said ok to refund and 3rd call -more weeks later, iirc he accepted to refund me there and then after i got the hump down the phone!

And i know for a fact im not the only one on here whos had issues of a similar nature. Sorry for adding my 2p, wasn't going to in fear of being cursed down by the countless number of worshipers there are on here,but tbh im fed up of hearing bad things and no one bothering to say anything about it!
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Still no reply to my question about how a starter motor replacement can repair a charging system....

In the light of that fundamental fact being ignored Luke is 100% blame free for the breakdown and subsequent issues the car suffered.
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Paul maybe you can explain it?
I can't which is why like most people on this site I have to put my trust in the expert mechanics that trade here.
What I can tell you is that when the car was removed to Pan there were new additions to the wiring/earthing found. When these were installed I can't tell you but to my knowledge they weren't there before the engine was declared dead. I'll leave you to figure it out since as I've already said I've received no explanation about this from Luke who I paid my money to.
What I can say is that the engine Luke told me was dead is now running fine having been removed and worked on by another garage.


I'll just keep riding round in my car.
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sigh.. waste of time, this thread. The shop that repaired the car didn't tell you what was wrong with it ?

whatever, really.
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cvega666 wrote:sigh.. waste of time, this thread.

whatever, really.


is a bit now really
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HighwayStar wrote:Paul maybe you can explain it?


The only explanation that can be drawn is that there was no charging issue to begin with, sounds like the garage added extra earths for your new starter as the old one melted your old earths, by the sound of it the alternator is totally unconnected with your recent trouble, which means Luke is blameless really.
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HighwayStar wrote:What I can say is that the engine Luke told me was dead is now running fine having been removed and worked on by another garage.


I have stayed out of this as it all got confusing and wanted to stay impartial. But....

They removed the engine, diagnosed the started motor and fitted a started motor and refitted it to the car in one hour?

You said you would pay them for one hours work, thats an awful lot to complete in one hour.
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