Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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bluesmoke
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Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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I have no MOT on my car as it's not quite finished yet, but I have an HKS EVC IV plumbed in. I have to drive the car somewhere I can floor it and redline it for the unit to learn the car's boost curve before I can set it up.

Now, my only opportunity to do this will be on the way to the MOT next week. Unless of course, I can do this while it's up on stands still? I don't see why I couldn't, but I'm concerned that with no weight on the wheels, the car won't work as hard to get to redline. Would this affect the boost? Has anybody done it this way before?
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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i would imagine it wouldnt work the same as the car wouldnt be under load, i would wait
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I wouldn't risk it mate.
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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Until it rocks off the axle stands and catapults you into the house/garage/car parked in front. If all you need to do is redline it why not wait till you are on the way to the mot. Or wait and fit it after you are road legal.
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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No. The car wont make boost with the wheels just spinning in the air, no load on the engine. :thumleft:
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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completely pointless!!!

just turn the EBC off and run actuator pressure till its mot'd!

not exactly hard to work this out surely.
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if you want to get out all the crap from the engine before it gets near the probe for the emissions test, just do a couple of pulls on actuator pressure.

there is no need what so ever to setup the boost controller for a MOT!
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I know it's not needed for MOT. Just didn't know if it would be better to have it set up before driving it any distance.

Thanks guys.
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just turn it off until the car passes everything.

then when your sure car is 100%, then have a mess around with the ebc.
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Fair enough :thumleft:
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If you do it on the axle stands be sure to video it!!
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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Why? Nothing bad would happen, it's on 4 stands and very secure!
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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Coupla hundred kilos of engine rocking back and forth might just be enough to dislodge it from its perch.
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Marf wrote:Coupla hundred kilos of engine rocking back and forth might just be enough to dislodge it from its perch.


Hence why I ask before attempting such things :D
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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greeny wrote:If you do it on the axle stands be sure to video it!!


Aww I was going to say that :( It's got epic fail written all over it :)


bluesmoke wrote:Why? Nothing bad would happen, it's on 4 stands and very secure!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFGr_mkQaA&NR=1

I'm sure the EVO owner thought the same....
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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I'd be very careful about trying this. All the workshop manuals I have and DIY books are usually pretty clear to never run a car in gear when it's jacked up.

Just think what would happen if there was a "shake" somewhere and the car would come down. I'm not sure whether I'd want to be seat belted in the drivers seat wearing a crash helmet or standing 20 yards behind it out of harms way. "Hit the road running" to coin a phrase.

I don't think it's safe at all.

If you were to contamplate it though I think you'd need to be sure that the wheels were jacked up to the same level as they would be on the road as your U/J's on the drive shafts would take a hammering turning when the wheels were dropped (just my take on it -maybe they wouldn't).

Just my 2p worth -I'm sure it's been done before and folk got away with it but it would be a major dooh #-o moment and some explaining to your insurers if something did happen.
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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Reading this thread I couldnt help thinking of the Ferris Bueller's Day Off, with the ferrari running in reverse sat on axle stands.

fail in 3..
2..
1..

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Or mabe this would be a more accurate representation of what could happen....

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Seriously though with no load on the engine in dont think it will make boost.

Good luck :pray:
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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if you have a spare set of rear brake pads you could always put the handbrake on
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Re: Can you set up a boost controller with the car up on stands?

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Follow what jim says

never think of doing such a thing. Why do you think the cars are strapped down on a dyno?
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dantheman wrote:if you have a spare set of rear brake pads you could always put the handbrake on


Yes thats the way to do it. Up on stands with the hand brake on, loads of boost.
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