murray is dead UPDATE some more pics

[pistol pete]

well i start a new thread just let peeps know
my project thread can go

ben very kindly came round and anniahlate murray with expert use of a hammer

after pulling out the cardboard the filler the tile adhesive, MILK BOTTLES??????,and the toilet roll found that most of the front floor pan had gone and that the inner skin had gone as well..

both sills need doing and rear arches and engine and rear ..

but its got a new bumper bar woohoo

so here are a quick pics of dead murray

with bens a help a few bits were donated so if you want any bits let me know...

the start..
it took 45 mins to find some where good to jack and then use the axel stands on


the first lot that ben found

a missing light

oopps



notice the milk bottle





seats missing and now in bens

nice new seats in bens no more ripped leather



nice new wiper arms

back to murray




soo bye bye murray

black one is a much much better car

[Ben]

Well that was fun! It all came apart like lego

Scary to see just how little metal there was underneath - I'm amazed the front suspension didn't just fall off Sills gone, floorpan gone, suspension mounts gone... basically anything structural wasn't there. Complete lemon of a car

Plenty of salvagable parts though, so more money to put into the black one which is the most solid MK1 I've ever driven

I'll be down again to help when I can

New seats in mine are a lot better - I'm not sliding around in the corners like I was with the knackered leather ones

Also, I can confirm that the 1a sub will bolt straight into the 1b. It makes a noticeable difference as well

[richyrask]

This is a real shame as I have seen some of the work you have already put in. As said in my post in your project posting all of this is repairable, but you have to do it yourself otherwise its just not economically viable. I'm currently restoring my b and have done an awful lot of welding on it as well as stripping and rebuilding all the running gear.

I would not be too happy if I had been sold this car as it plainly wasn't road worthy at the last MOT. Who the hell repaires a floor with cardboard, milk bottles and tile adhesive and then what sort of garage passes it?

Still if there is one good thng come out of this is that you now know what to look for on Mk1's as far a rot goes although some top bodging does hide an awfull lot for a short time. Most of these cars are now very rotten and unless I saw photo evidence of repair work I wouldnt touch one with a barge pole as there is a good chance its been bodged. If you want to own one of these cars long term you need to learn to weld or have a bottomless pocket!

Hopefully bits of Murray will live on. I know I needed a car like Murray to rebuild mine, when its finshed the shell will go to the Mr2 heven as its about to fall to bits on my drive. Some work so far.............

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Its taken me 12 months so far to do the welding and rebuild the rear suspension. Lots more work to go, should be finished by next spring.

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[richyrask]

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[WeirdNeville]

I'm surprised it didn't drop through the axle stands. Stuff like this is my worst fear after my first MK1, which was a dog.

Well done for biting the bullet anyway and not selling a bad car on. Love those seats!

[Ben]

Love those seats!

Me too

[pistol pete]

cheers peeps and gladyou like the seats ben

i know its all repaiarable but its the inside skin has gone
also its what you cannot see and its a lot i meana lot of work to do this car when i have a very very solid car..

i must admit though i bought the car from a well know mr2 member and i never checked it over properly as was apparently mint
i know these area to look for i just didn't (believe em i know where to look i have had 9 of them~)

but hey ho live and learn

[cartledge_uk]

i must admit though i bought the car from a well know mr2 member and i never checked it over properly as was apparently mint
i know these area to look for i just didn't (believe em i know where to look i have had 9 of them~)

just becasue they are well known doesn't mean they arn't after a quick ££ you still have to be carefull buying any part or car.

[Charged]

just becasue they are well known doesn't mean they arn't after a quick ££ you still have to be carefull buying any part or car.

or they were none the wiser as well..

[WeirdNeville]

Perhaps we should insist on X-Rays when we sell club cars on?!

Really it's buyer beware. We all know the problems these cars can have with rust. A tiny bit peeping through could mean that much of your chassis is scattered the length of the country. You need to poke around and be confident that the car you're buying is worth what you're paying. I appreciate that the worst rust was hidden on this one, but ultimately you can always walk away from a car that doesn't feel "right".

[cartledge_uk]

just becasue they are well known doesn't mean they arn't after a quick ££ you still have to be carefull buying any part or car.

or they were none the wiser as well..

Possibly, but then thats all the more reason to check

[MartG]

Crikey - looks in even worse nick than the one I scrapped a couple of years ago. Like you say though, lots of saleable bits on it

[Karl_T]

Bad luck mush, you win some you lose some. Shame though.

Karl_T

[Ben]

Well I headed down to have some more fun with Murray today.

I set about the interior...


And Pete started removing bits from the engine ready to drop it...



And then guess what we found! Yup, lots of holes and past bodges.

Rear quarter:


Rotten arch:


LOTS of holes in the floor...








Spot the face


Then the passenger side:






And, worse, the driver side:






And then we have the "stress buster special" rear wings






Looking a bit forlorn:



The more we uncovered, the more rust we found There have been some fairly serious bodges as well. That hole in the driver's floorpan was b odged together with cardboard and filler. One tap with a hammer and a 6" x 4" slab just dropped off

Not a car to have a crash in...

Plenty of decent parts have come off though. My achievent of the day was removing both rear quarter windows intact, and stripping the entire interior without snapping a single tab off

[pistol pete]

and to think i put lil d in this car

kinda makes me want a newer car like a mk3 or similar

[tonigmr2]

That's like the worst case I've seen still on the road!
Bit of a nightmare.

[Ben]

One of Pete's neighbours came and had a gander at it. He reckoned it had been parked by the sea at some point and the tide had come in

The thing that gets me is that most of the bigger holes had been bodged by someone - which means, somewhere down the line, somebody knowingly sold it like this

[Jim-SR]

wowser, thats a bad one!!! makes my blue car look mint lol. even after ive chopped the entire front end out of it!!

[tonigmr2]

The thing that gets me is that most of the bigger holes had been bodged by someone - which means, somewhere down the line, somebody knowingly sold it like this

Makes the old trick of running a magnet over the bodywork seem a good peice of advice when buying a MK1 in future!

[Tiamat]

The thing that gets me is that most of the bigger holes had been bodged by someone - which means, somewhere down the line, somebody knowingly sold it like this

Makes the old trick of running a magnet over the bodywork seem a good peice of advice when buying a MK1 in future!

Easily defeated through a mix of metal filings in with the filler.