picture/info request

[hucky]

hi, im looking to find the internal bore of the water pipes so that i can order the adaptor for the water temp guage that i have fitted. anyone know the size and/or show me a pic of where people have housed this.

also, looking for the same information for the oil pressure.... do prople recoment the sandwich plate or t-piece?? any pics of this available

[toxo]

Can't help you with the water pipes I'm afraid but the general consensus w/oil temps is that you don't get an accurate reading from a sandwich plate. The most accurate way to monitor is to drill the sump pan and weld a mount for a sensor in.

[hucky]

its oil pressure im looking at poss a sandwich plate for and the water pipes for the water temp

[Peter Gidden]

I'm afraid but the general consensus w/oil temps is that you don't get an accurate reading from a sandwich plate. The most accurate way to monitor is to drill the sump pan and weld a mount for a sensor in.

The difference will be so small it'll be irrelevant. Sandwich plates are perfectly acceptable.

For water temp, if keeping the OEM gauge, you'll need an adaptor that fits to the water hose, 32mm. Merlin Motorsport or ebay. About £12. The engine-rad hose will be on the N/S of the engine bay.

[hucky]

thank you peter, just ordered from Merlin Motorsport.

[jimGTS]

I'm afraid but the general consensus w/oil temps is that you don't get an accurate reading from a sandwich plate. The most accurate way to monitor is to drill the sump pan and weld a mount for a sensor in.

The difference will be so small it'll be irrelevant. Sandwich plates are perfectly acceptable.

For water temp, if keeping the OEM gauge, you'll need an adaptor that fits to the water hose, 32mm. Merlin Motorsport or ebay. About £12. The engine-rad hose will be on the N/S of the engine bay.

pete ive heard of peeps with SW plates on a rev1/2 getting oil temps readings of 130-150C.....!!
when i relocated the filter on my old rev2 highest i saw was 90-95c! which is FAR more accurate than 130-150C.

so safe to say it does majorly heatsoak in that area on a rev1/2.

[cantfindausername]

The temp sensor sits too close to the down pipe on a Rev 2. And you'll be lucky to fit the pressure sensors in that location if its one of the big ones.

[Munnsy]

Just for future reference is the sandwich plate acceptable and reliable for the above on rev3 tubby???
Just i want it toi be fairly accurate and reliabloe

[Peter Gidden]

pete ive heard of peeps with SW plates on a rev1/2 getting oil temps readings of 130-150C.....!!
when i relocated the filter on my old rev2 highest i saw was 90-95c! which is FAR more accurate than 130-150C.

OK, point taken, so nothing to do with actual oil temps.. The readings are being influenced by external factor. And the OP did not specify a Revision.

Just for future reference is the sandwich plate acceptable and reliable for the above on rev3 tubby???
Just i want it to be fairly accurate and reliable

Yes, absolutely fine.

[Munnsy]

cheers bud

[jimGTS]

pete ive heard of peeps with SW plates on a rev1/2 getting oil temps readings of 130-150C.....!!
when i relocated the filter on my old rev2 highest i saw was 90-95c! which is FAR more accurate than 130-150C.

OK, point taken, so nothing to do with actual oil temps.. The readings are being influenced by external factor. And the OP did not specify a Revision.

Just for future reference is the sandwich plate acceptable and reliable for the above on rev3 tubby???
Just i want it to be fairly accurate and reliable

Yes, absolutely fine.

Pete I went on the fact that his garage link in his avatar says 1990, so revision 1
Yeh temp readings being influenced from the crazy hot area around the turbo and Downpipe

Ideally temps should be taken at the sump if you can. And I guess pressure also, tho you can take that at the stock oil pressure location.

On rev3+, sandwich plate is ideal as the filter is in a much better location for readings. It's basically at the sump.

[hucky]

this could be the way i have worded things but im not looking for oil temp.

i have bought oil pressure guage and water temp.
i have seen a few of you mention the oil temp a few times.

[jimGTS]

if you want gauges, the first thing you should really be looking at is boost and oil temp...
pressure and water temp are secondary to these.

either way, take oil pressure from a tpiece at the stock oil pressure location.

and water temp, i guess one of the hoses from the rad.

tho not seen many folk do this, so not sure on size...

[Tiny]

Radiator out is a good place for Water temps as the drop will be minimal to the the engine bay and wont be influenced by the hot bay.

Sandwhich plate on rev1/2 for pressure is V tight and not recomended if you have the autoguage type sender.

You are best off running an extension line from the stock oil pressure location and using a T peice for the stock reading and your pressure reading

DO NOT use a T peice straight off the stock location as its not strong enough to support the weight of both senders and will break and loose you all your oil in less than 5 seconds flat at 3+bar and wreck your engine.

[jimGTS]

yep you want one of these which i fitted to my old car....

braided line basically, then the sendors...

[hucky]

cheers jim, thats the pic i was looking for. ill get that part ordered soon.

i have sorted the water temp now (i only got water temp to fill the pods i had) im using a din pod holder, i have running boost, oil pressure (still to be connected) and water temp.


cheers everyone thats replied

[cantfindausername]

can you let us know details of how you sorted the water temp? Cos I'm sure that will be asked again sooner or later.

[hucky]

for now ive fitted it on the water pipe that is under the air filter. connected down from the radiator cap in the engine bay. i used the 32 mill i think it was adaptor that pete advised. ive put it their as i wanted it working and looked at the job of getting to the rad pipes at the front and couldnt really be a55ed in the cold


its reading between 60 and 70 deg c..
i will take some pics in work tomorrow

[jimGTS]

hard to gauge what those readings mean, cause oportating temp is around 80-85C....
(stock thermostat).....but thats at the coolent elbow obviously...

[Leon.]

this could be the way i have worded things but im not looking for oil temp.

No, you worded it fine, its just that some people can't read