**UPDATED** 1991 Rev 1 (Beastly V6 1MZ-FE VVTI) **UPDATED**

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Re: **UPDATED** 1991 Rev 1 (Beastly V6 1MZ-FE VVTI) **UPDATED**

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I've managed to do a few small bits and pieces today. Nothing major but a few jobs to keep the car improvement going...


Firstly my left front indicator had recently been deciding when it wanted to work. This causes the other indicators to go into a 'disco effect mode' :lol: Initially I thought that it was an issue with the bulb, or a relay. I stripped everything down today and did some tests with the multimeter to find that the main terminal connector wasn't connecting as it should be. So a quick clean up, put everything back together and it was like new :thumleft:


Following that I was onto the next job... the tachometer wire from the ECU had come off during the course of some of my tests recently. I didn't take note of the correct pin at the time though... Doh!

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Today I located the right pin for it and had a fully functional tachometer again :mrgreen:


My boot light has never worked. In fact I didn't think that I even had one until I did some research on here. I did a few tests on it today and found out that it's getting all the voltage that it should although the earth cable has broken down resulting in it not completing the circuit. I've decided that I will be modifying and installing a new LED light in there in its place. Updates and purchases to follow on that front :thumleft:


My washer jet splitter has been playing up. Closer inspection on this showed that it had been fowling on the front strut brace. This had in turn also crushed the passenger side washer jet plastic. TFS very kindly sent me this for free:

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I altered the route the of the jet cabling today, and installed the new splitter and the system was better than new :mrgreen:


I then started to tackle a job which has been bugging me for some time. I've got some surface rust in the frunk. This came around before I bought the car as a result of the old bonnet not sealing against the rubber properly resulting in this on both sides:

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I set about cleaning everything up either side and then started to rub it all back:

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I stupidly forgot to take a picture of everything rubbed back as far as it would go #-o :lol: as you can see its surface rust though

I then put on three coats of Locite rust treatment

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It's still going off at this point:

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Tomorrow I intend to fill any small indentations, rub it all back again so that it's smooth and if I've got time paint it up to match back in with the car. It should look tonnes when better whilst being preventing any rust ingress. It will take some work though. Eventually I intend to attack the bottom of the doors in the same way. There's only a small amount there but I want the entire car to be fully rust proof.


I moved some of the new engine bay earthing around a bit. I still want it on show although maybe not as obviously as it was before. I may move things around again, and I may go for a full wire tuck at some stage, but this is how it looks with the engine cover off at the moment:

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I then checked the air pressure in all the tyres, pumped them up a bit and sent for the obligatory long country drive :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by synXero »

You are an authentic nut case, but I like that you're paying attention to the small rust issues now. Rust really gets into your mind like a cancer, and you start disliking the car for it I always feel.

You can never really rust proof a metal object that spends its life outside, but well done for taking the preventative steps instead of the curative ones.
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I do like to tinker with my car :mrgreen:

Like you say rust is a torrid thing and anything that I can do to prevent it or attack any small bits that are already on the car is a good thing. That said the only small patches of rust on the car is the section I've been working on in the frunk and a small bit at the base of the doors. Everything else has been replaced and treated. Not bad for a rev1 if I do say so myself! By the end of 2013 I want the car to be entirely rust free.

That reminds me - it's been a year since I waxoiled the underside of the car. Something I need to do again soon :-k


I've had a tinker again today. Firstly since my engine conversion the engine lid hasn't popped up on its own when the lever was pulled. It was a case of pulling the lever in the cabin whilst reaching around and prising up the engine lid. Today I took off the mechanism, took it apart, cleaned it up and fitted it 2.5mm lower down. It's perfect now!! :thumleft:

I'm running out of small jobs to do on the car, it's almost like new now :-k


I rubbed back the top of the frunk turrets again today and rust treated them twice more to ensure that all surface rust is gone. That resulted in this (sorry for the poor quality photos - they were taken in my slightly dark garage):

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I then started filling lightly over the top in order to cover any indentations. It looks a lot rougher than it is in real life:

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I will allow it to go off overnight and try to rub it back tomorrow if I get a chance. It's certainly going the right way :thumleft:


Whilst that was drying I removed the boot trim so that I can modify it for a new and effective bootlight. I'm going to be doing it similar to the one which Chris did on here recently. I've bought all of the necessary bits and bobs and they are on their way to me. In the meantime I've started a stockpile ready...

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Updates to follow when I next get a chance to work on the car and when Peter has found out if/what is wrong with the alternator :thumleft:
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Re: **UPDATED** 1991 Rev 1 (Beastly V6 1MZ-FE VVTI) **UPDATED**

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Any news on your alternator karl?
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thomp1983 wrote:Any news on your alternator karl?


No news yet. My guys were scheduled to look at it this afternoon (and they may well have done), but i don't chase my suppliers when they're a minute overdue as that often irritates and gets you to the back of the queue.

I'll be calling them tomorrow afternoon.
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Well Peter managed to speak to the alternator specialist today... The alternator is completly healthy and 100% spot on with no drain coming from it.

Therefore the issue definitely lies with the wiring in the car somewhere.
Off to scratch my head and do some online research :-s
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Did a few small bits and bobs on the car today...

I cleaned up the filled patches on both frunk turrets. They are a weird mix of metal, rust treatment, filler and knifing putty. There's no rust in there at all, but it certainly isn't pretty! :lol:

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And the other side

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I then masked everything up:

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Everything got coated in etch primer. Then rubbed back a bit and done in high build primer. Once this goes off it will be rubbed back and keyed in with several grades of wet and dry before being painted. It's currently drying but this is how it's all looking:

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I then finally got around to fitting my custom stainless steel details plate. I had decided that I didn't want to clutter up the engine bay and as such was going to fit it in the frunk.

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And fitted in the most visible/logical/OEM place in the frunk:

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Very pleased with it :thumleft:
Bonded it using a type of all purpose silicone sealant. This will keep it attached whilst still allowing for some flex with the plastic liner.

Next updates should cover the boot lighting mod, and progress on the frunk painting :mrgreen:
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Well the car is still garage bound so whilst it's been sitting there I've felt sorry for her and been doing a few bits and bobs.

I've keyed in and smoothed out the primer. There are no imperfections in it, so it will literally be like new when it gets painted. I dug out my paint for the topcoat but it looked a little too "gloopy" and old for my liking and so I binned it and have another set purchased and on-route to me. Once this is delivered I will set about painting everything up. I can't wait :mrgreen:

Yesterday the postie delivered my LED strips for my boot light mod:

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I cut them to the appropriate size, here's the excess:

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I then joined both positives and both negatives together. I wrapped them together, soldered them and then heat shrink wrapped them:

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I then marked up my boot trim and drilled numerous holes so that I could secure the new lights. I ensured that I had a hole right in the centre to feed the cabling through and keep everything looking as clean as possible:

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How the underside looks. I secured it in so many places so that it's perfectly flat and straight and I get the most equal spread of light possible:

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Although this won't be visible when inside the boot, this is how the lights look fitted to the trim. I will order some black cable ties and redo all of the fittings so that the mounting looks less obvious if you ever get locked inside my boot:

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I then ran two lengthening cables to ensure that this will fit and that I will also have some cable to play with if needed. Everything then got hooked up to one of my spare batteries to ensure that everything worked so it should before I fitted the appropriate connectors to join it into the car.

Rather than fitting the led strips straight against the boot I have angled them so that they are directed into the boot more. This ensures that the boot itself is lit up as opposed to the boot rubber seal :lol:

Here it is tested on my battery:

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I then fitted it to the relevant connectors in the original plug/bulb section and installed it in the car. This is how it looks fully installed:

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Considering that I've never had a boot light in this car before this was a massive massive improvement!!! I then did some tests to make sure that it went on/off like it should when the boot shuts. Unfortunately the person who owned my car before me appears to have been a registered idiot who liked to attack the car with wire cutters. The boot light doesn't go off when the boot is shut as all of the wires connected to the boot mechanism have been cut. Rather than trying to play around with the butchered original wiring I am going to add a nice clean aftermarket pressure switch and remove all the old rubbish wiring. This will solve this problem perfectly. Until then it's all unplugged and I'm still without a boot light :lol:

Slowly but surely the car is becoming a far cleaner, more modern and generally nicer MR2 :thumleft:
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KarlBristol wrote:Well the car is still garage bound so whilst it's been sitting there I've felt sorry for her and been doing a few bits and bobs.


But no time to do the two tests i asked you to do on Thursday? ](*,)
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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
KarlBristol wrote:Well the car is still garage bound so whilst it's been sitting there I've felt sorry for her and been doing a few bits and bobs.


But no time to do the two tests i asked you to do on Thursday? ](*,)


You still haven't got back to me, and haven't informed me of any tests to do following me contacting you on Thursday?!

So yes I have time to do tests, and no I haven't done any tests as you haven't been in contact!!
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How much of the boot wiring loom do you need karl? I can cut you the boot loom out of my rev3 im breaking, it's in good condition with only a small repair near the light wiring

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KarlBristol wrote:
Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
KarlBristol wrote:Well the car is still garage bound so whilst it's been sitting there I've felt sorry for her and been doing a few bits and bobs.


But no time to do the two tests i asked you to do on Thursday? ](*,)


You still haven't got back to me, and haven't informed me of any tests to do following me contacting you on Thursday?!

So yes I have time to do tests, and no I haven't done any tests as you haven't been in contact!!


Message fowarded.
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KarlBristol wrote:Unfortunately the person who owned my car before me appears to have been a registered idiot who liked to attack the car with wire cutters. The boot light doesn't go off when the boot is shut as all of the wires connected to the boot mechanism have been cut


Battery drain!!111!11!11!
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synXero wrote:
KarlBristol wrote:Unfortunately the person who owned my car before me appears to have been a registered idiot who liked to attack the car with wire cutters. The boot light doesn't go off when the boot is shut as all of the wires connected to the boot mechanism have been cut


Battery drain!!111!11!11!


I wish it was that easy. The car didn't have a parasitic drain before the engine switch and used to be left garaged for a couple of weeks at a time on no trickle charger and start up first turn of the key. The engine was swapped over and I now have a parasitic drain. That pretty much discounts any original wiring which wasn't altered during the engine swap - boot light wiring included. The issue is somewhere in the new engine and it's associated wiring.

The boot light has never been connected before I installed the LED strip. I test fitted it and also tested to make sure it would go off when the boot was shut. It didn't go off with the boot shut, so I disconnected everything again as I didn't want a parasitic drain. Hence definitely not the boot light as in entire time I've owned the car this has only been plugged in for a maximum of 10 minutes. Good thinking though :thumleft:
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KarlBristol wrote:Right it's been a short while since my last update (which for this thread is mightily unusual!! :lol:) so what's happened?

Well I replaced my UK looms with my USDM rear light looms so that I could utilise the red triangles only to find that some muppet has modified them badly #-o

The USDM sidelights didn't work at all and the red triangles were wired to come on with the fog lights. I won't even mention how badly the earth cables were bodged. So I decided to strip it all to pieces and use just the wiring that I needed for the triangles spliced into my current unmolested UK looms as I'd know exactly what had been modified then...

So I went from this:

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To this:

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I placed everything to one side then and waited as I had ordered some LED lights for the red triangle bulb holders but I wanted to fit everything at the same time. Low and behold they arrived today and so I could crack on:

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The eagle eyed amongst you will notice that these are the same bulbs that I have in my number plate holder. I was so impressed with the colour of light, amount of output and general sharpness that I chose them for my red triangles as well. So I set about modifying my UK looms which led to the following results:

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And the other side:

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I then had some adhesive based heat wrap delivered this morning:

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And I went through the same process as before... Let's see if this has any effect on the slight exhaust mount knock :-k

I need to work out what to buy next for the car now :-k :-k :-k



Hi Karl, I am just grasping at straws here but I notice from this post you mention about how badly the previous owner had done some electrical work on the rear lights - maybe have a check at what you have done here to put it right - specifically the earth issues you mention ( Check them with your meter to make sure you haven't got power going out to an earth)
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I was just being facetious really Karl. I pray you get it sorted as I know how cancerous it feels when 'something' is wrong!
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The offer to drive it up to Peter's workshop for you still stands :thumleft:
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ashley wrote:The offer to drive it up to Peter's workshop for you still stands :thumleft:


^I'd be taking ash up on this great offer! :clap:
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KarlBristol wrote:
Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
KarlBristol wrote:Well the car is still garage bound so whilst it's been sitting there I've felt sorry for her and been doing a few bits and bobs.


But no time to do the two tests i asked you to do on Thursday? ](*,)


You still haven't got back to me, and haven't informed me of any tests to do following me contacting you on Thursday?!

So yes I have time to do tests, and no I haven't done any tests as you haven't been in contact!!


Sent you a PM last night with a screenprint of my phone showing the SMS sent on Thursday. Also forwarded same SMS to you last night.

Nice job with rear light looms, but no time to do the tests today? Or PMs and SMSs not working?
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KarlBristol wrote:The car didn't have a parasitic drain before the engine switch and used to be left garaged for a couple of weeks at a time on no trickle charger and start up first turn of the key.


Your car first had electrical issues after it caught fire nearly 2 years ago:

February 2012

KarlBristol wrote:
For the first time ever the car wouldn't start and made only a clicking noise. I presumed that it was the starter motor or the solenoid. Unfortunately after numerous tests this wasn't the cause. The battery drained almost immediatly as well ... A few more tests and I still couldn't find any problems.

The car wouldn't bump start or jump start...

After a long day of cussing about not being able to go on a blast I packed up for the day and stuck the battery on charge overnight.

The following day I put the battery in, hoping that my issues may have been caused by a dying battery or faulty terminals. Went to start the car and it felt like it was trying, but wouldn't actually start.

After about 20 seconds of sitting in the car, scratching my head and trying to work out what was wrong I smelt a horrendous smell (and it wasn't me for once! lol) I looked around and saw every car owners worst fear..


KarlBristol wrote:My car was on fire...


KarlBristol wrote:It was clearly an electrical problem that started this, so I set about trying to trace it down...

I ran some basic electrical tests and I've come to the following conclusion. One of the major earthing points in the car has broken (probably a frayed earth cable as its 22 years old). When I tried to start the car the electricity took the path of least resistance, which was for some reason the o/s handbrake cable. This almost immediately discharged the battery and caused a large electrical fire.


KarlBristol wrote:the battery and fan light is on until the car is revved. This would indicate to me that there is still a slight earthing problem.


On the phone you recently mentioned dash lights changing in brightness relative to engine revs. Classic earth problem.

KarlBristol wrote:The car didn't have a parasitic drain before the engine switch and used to be left garaged for a couple of weeks at a time on no trickle charger and start up first turn of the key. The engine was swapped over and I now have a parasitic drain. That pretty much discounts any original wiring which wasn't altered during the engine swap


It was established to be an earth problem. There is no record of you checking the main earths inside the looms for damage - which is quite possible especially when you managed to fry the insulation around a handbrake cable.

Bolting dozens of brightly coloured wires to the outside of the engine will not cure a loom fault. All production cars have only one or two heavy earth wires to the engine block - purely to carry starter motor current.

All other earths are inside the loom and must be in perfect condition. They all need carefully checking.

Your alternator wiring is the exact same wiring as you had before. I simply stripped your 3S loom of all wires except alternator, oil pressure switch and reverse light switch.

I then connected the 1MZ loom to the various wires in the fuse box, and bound the two looms together to give the appearance of one loom.

So the only original wiring that has been removed is 3S ecu related engine loom wiring.

Futhermore your battery went flat in 4 days when the car was with me - between me driving it across to ther workshop and removing your exhaust for the customer who bought it. Why? I don't know.

As for after the conversion, i don't know because it was driven every day in the last few days prior to you collecting it.

I am not suggesting the history is related, however it has to be on the list until it is eliminated or another reason for the fault is found. And so far, we haven't found anything else.

I appreciate you work 16 hour shifts. I aprreciate Nic is pregnant. I have offered to pick your car up for the cost of train fare plus fuel. Others have offered to help. I've asked you to do tests to try and advance with the problem, but no reply. Thr issue is obviously not as straightforward as most and can't be sorted without some sort of pro-active effort.

I have spent hours trying to help you. Paul Woods has spent much time discussing your issue with me. As previously mentioned, others are trying to help. You're not the only one getting frustrated!
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