MR2 Turbo VS Honda Integra Type R???

[Hunders]

I just have to say that I love the ITR in both JDM or UK guise. When I was looking for a new car my mind was split between an ITR and an MR2 Turbo but then an MR2 popped up for sale and was pretty much exactly what I wanted so I bought it straight away. An ITR is going to be in the shortlist for my next car, in two years or so, along with an Evo 4/5 and a Supra TT. (Is it bad that I am already thinking of my next car after only owning the '2 for around two months? )

[fizz]

Indeed Munnsy. Never swap the 2!

Alas DC2 o-60 is around 6.5-7.0, DC5 is in the 7's.
So an NA can easy do those.
In an MR2 thrash 2 NAs posted 6.3 and 6.5 0-60 times with satellite timing. The first a Glimited race car from Rogue with a rev3 engine(i believe) the second was a rev2 with a decat.

Both Integras are brilliant both not super fast, just great all rounders.

Im afraid to say that i have never encountered a MR2 NA that could hit anything in sub 7 second forum unless modified... (unless your chatting about modded jobbies of course)

Parkers on the MR2 NA states 7.7 seconds to 60.
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Data.aspx?model=894

The DC2 hits 60 in 6.5... thats over 1 second quicker mate.
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Data.aspx?model=311

Then your chatting about the DC5 being slower than the DC2??? where are you getting your info from exactly?

Did you know the DC5 has circa 220bhp and hits 60 in around 6 seconds?

[eRATic]

and you've personally experienced a DC2 then have you Fizz.

[luthor1]

the DC2 I've had experience of would hit sub-7 in stock form, with mods was closer to 6.1

I had a saxo vts with 160bhp flywheel which did 6.7

[fizz]

and you've personally experienced a DC2 then have you Fizz.

Ive not driven a DC2 but have been a passenger in one where the owner was trying to impress me. I then took him out in my tubby and he was amazed at the difference in terms off power and acceleration in the same roads..

The DC5 however i have driven one personally and yes its quick... Not far off my old Rev 3 tubby in terms off accereration once in Vtec.

I have also driven a rev 3 NA and i am telling you that the DC2 and DC5 are quicker than any NA MR2...

[luthor1]

An NA will weigh around 1260kg's and have 152/173bhp

DC2 weighs 1145 and has 189bhp. It's not hard to work out is it? The DC2 top speed is 144mph to the MR2's 137mph.

The DC2 would win.

[fizz]

Exactly Mr Luthor...

Once on a Mways i was supprised at just how quick a DC2 was when it took me a lot longer than expected in gaining a gap... he had a zorst and maybe stage one mods but still it was damn quick.

The others i have encountered have been impressive as well in different scenario's.

[eRATic]

and you've personally experienced a DC2 then have you Fizz.

Ive not driven a DC2 but have been a passenger in one where the owner was trying to impress me. I then took him out in my tubby and he was amazed at the difference in terms off power and acceleration in the same roads..

The DC5 however i have driven one personally and yes its quick... Not far off my old Rev 3 tubby in terms off accereration once in Vtec.

I have also driven a rev 3 NA and i am telling you that the DC2 and DC5 are quicker than any NA MR2...

i can remember when you were looking at buying a DC2. i thought you had so was surprised to see you still had the tubby

[fizz]

I had the tubby up for sale and was offered a black UK DC2 as a straight swap... all was set for it but then he xxxxx me about and the deal fell through.

It was from that point i really started to read up on DC2's and was quickly supprised at the reports and then the encounters i had with them after.

Sadly these days im driving a Bora TDi after owning a GT4 after the tubby..

I still love the Teg's but has to be said that the interior's are crap in comparrison to the MR2's... lol

[eRATic]

i trust the TDi has been chipped. had it done to my Alfa 156, big difference now making 225hp

[fizz]

i trust the TDi has been chipped. had it done to my Alfa 156, big difference now making 225hp

all in good time...

[nakamura]

My bad i meant DC5 is 6's. However the rev 1 G-limiteds are listed as 6.7 0-60 by Toyota japan. So that is similar to the DC2.

The DC2 may have more power but has less Torque, my glimited was rolling roaded at over 20lbs more torque than a DC2. Its got more oomph from low down, i was hitting 130lbs, which is the DC2s max torque, from 3200rpm. plus the mr2 is more aerodynamic and with the mid/rear setup is ideal for acceleration.

The mr2 that hit 6.5 0-60 was satelite timed and only had a de-cat.

Apart from the DC5 typo all i have said is the NA is capable of similar performance.

[SW20Paul]

I would say that even thought the dc2 has less low down torque than an N/A MR2, the DC2 would still beat an N/A in all area's,

As said before more power less weight how could the DC2 possibly be slower.

[nakamura]

Just looked at Hondas offical numbers, 14.8 standing start for a DC2 1/4 mile. 0-60 in 6.7.

John Bateson hit 60 in 6.4 secs and 1/4 mile in 15 flat in a Jtuner thrash.

Very similar id say.

[Scotster]

Just looked at Hondas offical numbers, 14.8 standing start for a DC2 1/4 mile. 0-60 in 6.7.

John Bateson hit 60 in 6.4 secs and 1/4 mile in 15 flat in a Jtuner thrash.

Very similar id say.

You have to remember that the honda is FWD. A <7 sec 0-60 in a FWD car is amazing to be honest and it just shows that once in VTec mode it must really take off.

Slowest part of the DC2 is going to be off the line.

Scott =op

[SW20Paul]

Just looked at Hondas offical numbers, 14.8 standing start for a DC2 1/4 mile. 0-60 in 6.7.

John Bateson hit 60 in 6.4 secs and 1/4 mile in 15 flat in a Jtuner thrash.

Very similar id say.

Yeah but was the MR2 stock ? Thats like a second quicker than Toyota say to 60.

15 sec 1/4 mile is very good for an N/A MR2

I still say in real world driving situations the Integra would out accelerate , out brake and out conrner the MR2 no probs.











P.S I think I'm just arguing for the sake of it (im bored)

[nakamura]

Just looked at Hondas offical numbers, 14.8 standing start for a DC2 1/4 mile. 0-60 in 6.7.

John Bateson hit 60 in 6.4 secs and 1/4 mile in 15 flat in a Jtuner thrash.

Very similar id say.

Yeah but was the MR2 stock ? Thats like a second quicker than Toyota say to 60.

15 sec 1/4 mile is very good for an N/A MR2

I still say in real world driving situations the Integra would out accelerate , out brake and out conrner the MR2 no probs.











P.S I think I'm just arguing for the sake of it (im bored)

lol!
Just de-cat and mongoose. Which is fair considering the SW20 is much older.

Im gonna open this up more now, how about a type r vs a BEAMS!!!!

[nakamura]

Just looked at Hondas offical numbers, 14.8 standing start for a DC2 1/4 mile. 0-60 in 6.7.

John Bateson hit 60 in 6.4 secs and 1/4 mile in 15 flat in a Jtuner thrash.

Very similar id say.

You have to remember that the honda is FWD. A <7 sec 0-60 in a FWD car is amazing to be honest and it just shows that once in VTec mode it must really take off.

Slowest part of the DC2 is going to be off the line.

Scott =op

Indeed Scott the DC2 is faster after 80-90. But the MR2 has good power and acceleration under that so if driven well could perform as well as the DC2 on the twisties.

[SW20Paul]

Just looked at Hondas offical numbers, 14.8 standing start for a DC2 1/4 mile. 0-60 in 6.7.

John Bateson hit 60 in 6.4 secs and 1/4 mile in 15 flat in a Jtuner thrash.

Very similar id say.

Yeah but was the MR2 stock ? Thats like a second quicker than Toyota say to 60.

15 sec 1/4 mile is very good for an N/A MR2

I still say in real world driving situations the Integra would out accelerate , out brake and out conrner the MR2 no probs.











P.S I think I'm just arguing for the sake of it (im bored)

lol!
Just de-cat and mongoose. Which is fair considering the SW20 is much older.

Im gonna open this up more now, how about a type r vs a BEAMS!!!!

Umm Type R vs Beams tough call I suppose they both have the same power but again the MR2 got another 100 or so kg's so I say the MR2 would still need a bit more power to beat the integra, But only on track I think 1/4 mile the MR2 might just have it due to a better launch, Then on a motorway once rolling I think they'd be a bout level pegged.

[nakamura]

This is certainly an interesting topic. But people always seem to under estimate the na. Its a very good car.