Rev 1 turbo vs E36 M3

[matt_mr2t]

Presuming that was a sarcastic quote...

I honestly dont like the sound of it... Watched about 4 min of that vid and when he puts his foot down the low rpm tinny sound is there and its horrid.

Yes it was. I that kind of sound. Nothing like an NA at 8500rpm. Sublime.

Too much of a generalisation there Lauren. Unusual for you.

A Ferarri NA at 8.5k will sound massively different from an M3 at 8.5k rpms and even more different from an American pushrod V8 at 8.5k and extremely different from a Honda at 8.5k revs, drastically different from an Aston V12, Porsche flat 6 or V10, Lambo V10 or V12 etc.

All those engines sound different but all of them are N/A's
Personally, out of all of them, I would remove the Honda and the E36/E46 M3 as they're just boring inlines that drone/howl
The others make music.

[Lauren]

Too much of a generalisation there Lauren. Unusual for you.

A Ferarri NA at 8.5k will sound massively different from an M3 at 8.5k rpms and even more different from an American pushrod V8 at 8.5k and extremely different from a Honda at 8.5k revs, drastically different from an Aston V12, Porsche flat 6 or V10, Lambo V10 or V12 etc.

All those engines sound different but all of them are N/A's
Personally, out of all of them, I would remove the Honda and the E36/E46 M3 as they're just boring inlines that drone/howl
The others make music.

Well I guess what i'm saying is that I like the sound of engines at very high revs and there aren't that many production engines that can get to 8.5K rpm. I seriously doubt an antiquated pushrod V8 will get to those kind of rpm's in production form. But of all those engines listed they all sound great at high rpm's so I think it's a fair generalisation to make in that respect.

[RobCrezz]

Too much of a generalisation there Lauren. Unusual for you.

A Ferarri NA at 8.5k will sound massively different from an M3 at 8.5k rpms and even more different from an American pushrod V8 at 8.5k and extremely different from a Honda at 8.5k revs, drastically different from an Aston V12, Porsche flat 6 or V10, Lambo V10 or V12 etc.

All those engines sound different but all of them are N/A's
Personally, out of all of them, I would remove the Honda and the E36/E46 M3 as they're just boring inlines that drone/howl
The others make music.

Well I guess what i'm saying is that I like the sound of engines at very high revs and there aren't that many production engines that can get to 8.5K rpm. I seriously doubt an antiquated pushrod V8 will get to those kind of rpm's in production form. But of all those engines listed they all sound great at high rpm's so I think it's a fair generalisation to make in that respect.

Antiquated pushrod V8?? You need to do some research on the Chevvy LS series of engines...

[matt_mr2t]

I think brand new American V8's are pushrods.

It's based on an old concept. But then again, so is every single piston engine in the entire world?

[RobCrezz]

I think brand new American V8's are pushrods.

It's based on an old concept. But then again, so is every single piston engine in the entire world?

The chevvy ls v8s are, but they make fantastic power, have great fuel economy for the power, and are very light and compact due to the pushrod design. they are really great engines.

[matt_mr2t]

And being pushrod are probably ten times easier to work on than over head valves. Not to mention, being in the states, strangled by OTT regulations....

After you posted I wiki'd them, quite interesting read. The LS9 I think it was is 6.3 with a supercharger making 638bhp
Off the top of my head, that must be the one in the Corvette they most recently tested on top gear, along with the Challenger and the Caddy?
It certainly looked insanely fast.

[JJ]

The LS9 I think it was is 6.3 with a supercharger making 638bhp
Off the top of my head, that must be the one in the Corvette they most recently tested on top gear, along with the Challenger and the Caddy?

I'm sure that vette was the new 7.0 litre LS evolved engine !! Great engine in all respect.... though massive bawlache in changing the cam out half way down the engine... engines got to come out !!

Parts are cheap as chips compared to the jap stuff !!

[matt_mr2t]

Why would you need to change a cam when you have that much power and torque?

I'm sure I read the other day it's the fastest production spec car on the ring?

A yank tank FFS!

It's about 2 seconds faster than the Nissan GTR.

[JJ]

Why would you need to change a cam when you have that much power and torque?

I look at engines from a modding / maintenance point of view... If something looks potentially like it would cost an absolute fortune to maintain or repair if things go wrong... then watch me turn into a negative stick in the mud.

Top end beasty, sure you dont need any more.. I'm looking in the perspective of the LS engined cars I can afford

[matt_mr2t]

Maintenance is generally easier on a pushrod or so I'm told. Especially head gasket work.

This is quite interesting.

http://www.cheersandgears.com/index.php?showtopic=23918

I get the feeling user "future of GM" is a cat funt.

[JJ]

Continuously Variable Valve Lift

Brilliant find .. didn't realise how "simple" you could implement honda's patended VTEC system to a pushrod engine !!

[matt_mr2t]

Just looks like adjustable wheel camber bolts doesn't it lol.

[Burger]

M3s are nice but they sound like Corsas with bean cans on the back.

You need your hearing checked mate! Them straight six's on sound awesome!

DAFL.

+2

I only had a lowly 325i with a replacement stock looking exhaust, easily the best sounding car i've ever owned.

I aggree

Well apart from C280 sport (V6) my mother had a 2 years ago