club agm

[Tiamat]

John, it is quite simple. The club needs more active members. Nobody is wanting to point the finger at individuals who dont attend. All the club wants is for members to try and attend events, be it national or locally organised events. Granted some will have personal circumstances to prevent them attending , but I'm sure most of us are able to attend at least 1 or 2 events a year.

I agree totally.
When it came to the restoration show, which was supposed to happen in September, given the number of MK1 club members, I found it amazing that not one of them was able to help out Jo and Garrick by sorting a van (which the club was to pay for) to help with getting stuff to and from the site.
Instead a non-MK1 club person (myself) actually volunteered and was making the arrangements.
From my observations of the MK1 Club, it seems to fall on the same people to organise events and it is often the same group of people helping out at the events.
More ACTIVE members are required.

[HT]

John, it is quite simple. The club needs more active members. Nobody is wanting to point the finger at individuals who dont attend. All the club wants is for members to try and attend events, be it national or locally organised events. Granted some will have personal circumstances to prevent them attending , but I'm sure most of us are able to attend at least 1 or 2 events a year.

Ollie that only makes sense on one level - if individuals choose to be a member yet not attend a mr2 mk1 club represented event, surely that should not be frowned upon as much as it is occurring on this forum?

Of course that is entirely their loss, however sometimes the general berating from a given status quo on this forum is tedious to say the least. Obviously thats my opinion, and again hardly helps a cause go forward.

Thanks to everyone who attended.

The minutes will be published in the club mag.

We made good progress in the meeting and this will undoubtedly see improvements for the coming year.

Members travelled from durham oop-north, and from the south too.
The only comment i can make about attendance is i'm glad people came, but sorry that those who wanted to come couldn't make it due to thier different circumstances.
for those who openly speak out and moan on the forum - it's a shame you couldn't turn up to help us set issues straight.

I am looking forward to the chnages ahead - no matter how small an issue, i think things will benefit members as a whole.

details will not be discussed here on a public forum but people are welcome to direct questions to the committee one things are published.

thanks again peeps

Jo well done for maintaining such a positive attitude, =D>

[monkeymax]

John, it is quite simple. The club needs more active members. Nobody is wanting to point the finger at individuals who dont attend. All the club wants is for members to try and attend events, be it national or locally organised events. Granted some will have personal circumstances to prevent them attending , but I'm sure most of us are able to attend at least 1 or 2 events a year.

I agree totally.
When it came to the restoration show, which was supposed to happen in September, given the number of MK1 club members, I found it amazing that not one of them was able to help out Jo and Garrick by sorting a van (which the club was to pay for) to help with getting stuff to and from the site.
Instead a non-MK1 club person (myself) actually volunteered and was making the arrangements.
From my observations of the MK1 Club, it seems to fall on the same people to organise events and it is often the same group of people helping out at the events.
More ACTIVE members are required.

Not that I want to stir this up any more than necessary, but Malcolm, are you implying that an active member is someone who helps out at events and organising them (which is actually how I read the word active here anyway) or, as Charged seems to put it, someone who just attends the events?

But then, there are members who join for other reasons than just the events...

I was going to add a bit more here, but realised this probably isn't the place for it. Damn, now I really wish I made it to the AGM.

[Tony jinxy froude]

Its quite simple really. An active member is any member ( or not in Malc's case ) willing to get off their ar$e & help in any way possible, weather that be taking a car along to a show, or even turning up to a show without a car & lending a hand on the stand for 1/2 an hour, submiting an article for the club mag etc , in fact anything to help the smooth running of the club!!. Jo & all the other local area organisers work tirelessly to organise shows for the membership as a whole to attend, now i know not everyone can attend shows/ pub meets etc, but there isnt one single member in the club who is unable to help in some small way, yet there seems to be loads to say when something is not right in the club..... yes i was one who moaned about the mag..... but i got off of my ar$e & did something about it yesterday !. Jinxy

[anna]

I think the comments made here boil down to one fact.
MR2mk1club is run by volunteer enthusiasts, same as IMOC.

And there are always a million and one ways to improve things, but some ideas are just impractical either because of money or manpower. Constructive criticism is fine, but without the appropriate mix of money and manpower, certain suggestions simply won't get done.
Without keen members willing to go above and beyond to sort certain things, they won't happen. All members should remember that before critising in a non-constructive way (and i'm not inferring that anyone was in this instance).

[System-G]

Thanks to everyone who came along.

I enjoyed the day and hearing the sugestions people had to offer. I am also really looking forward to the next year to see these offers/sugestions implemented.

I appologise if I seemed somewhat sidetracked/edgy, but was fielding afterhours call-outs for work - wich in it's own right is extremely stressfull and this can often bleed accross into my personal life.

[mr2mk1chick]

I would like to mention that i am well aware that there are loads of members who are not 'active' in the sense that they either attand or help at mk1 events and things. However - this is not a bad thing.

there are loads of mk1 owners out there who like to be a member of a car club, but have no intention of meeting other members or such like. they like getting the magazine, and are often members for the technical support from the club and other such reasons.

please do not think that the committee disregard these important members too. everyone is a member for different reasons, and want to get different things out of being in the club.

the main point is when people say 'why don't we do"...x.." ' and 'we need to improve "..y.."' they need to understand that all work by the club is voulntary and rome wasn't built in a day. Also if they want something sorting, the committee are often happy for that member to make it happen. IFSWIM.....

[AW11 Forever..!]

The AGM was a great success. All Club members have finally had the opportunity to attend the meeting and present opinions and ideas on how our fantastic Club can move forward.
In my opinion the AGM has been one of the most significant meeting for the Club and a massive step forward. I'm more than confident that things will really start to change for the better.
Huge praise must go to Jo, Stuart and Richard for their enthusiasm and pure honesty regarding certain fragile areas of the Club.
I really do get the impression that good things will start to happen, I think we are more aware now of the potential and direction our Club can now go.
Myself, Joanne, Mac and Jackie did over a 500 mile round trip in 2 MR2's and made a social weekend of it, well you know what us Geordies are like. The thing is though we did have a choice and we chose to be there to support the Club, I can understand why most members didn't come, you have that choice. It would have been nice if there were more people but the reality is that each member has different levels of commitment but more importantly that shouldn't de-value them as members.
If all members could do one thing to help the Club then I would certainly say please support your local areas and get the most out of your Club.

Cheers
Michael Sheavills
North East Regional Club Manager

[Tony jinxy froude]

Great to see you again Mike & Jo & all the others from the North East. I totally agree with you, the foundations have been set for the club as a whole to now build on & bring it kicking & screaming into the 21st century, see ya very soon, Jinxy

[Mk1 Turbo Powered Steve]

Great to see you again Mike & Jo & all the others from the North East. I totally agree with you, the foundations have been set for the club as a whole to now build on & bring it kicking & screaming into the 21st century, see ya very soon, Jinxy

So i look forward to seeing you at the mk1 xmas do, Jinxy! That's our next big national event!
I couldn't make it to the AGM but have made the xmas do for the last 4 years

[Tony jinxy froude]

Steve, if theres food there mate i'll be there.... which is probably why youve been there the last 4 years , Jinxy

[kevin..in]

I would like to mention that i am well aware that there are loads of members who are not 'active' in the sense that they either attand or help at mk1 events and things. However - this is not a bad thing.

there are loads of mk1 owners out there who like to be a member of a car club, but have no intention of meeting other members or such like. they like getting the magazine, and are often members for the technical support from the club and other such reasons.

please do not think that the committee disregard these important members too. everyone is a member for different reasons, and want to get different things out of being in the club.

the main point is when people say 'why don't we do"...x.." ' and 'we need to improve "..y.."' they need to understand that all work by the club is voulntary and rome wasn't built in a day. Also if they want something sorting, the committee are often happy for that member to make it happen. IFSWIM.....

spot on reply Jo

active members outwardly expressing their feeling toward what is infact the majority of members is no way to move the club forward

It could infact be argued that it is the active members who are failing (yes me included) to give the majority of members what they want from "Their" club (partially why I have encouraged others to get involved in what have been my runs, if I can only muster 6 members then the run isn't what they want!!)

we need to find out what is wanted by the majority, and yes I'm aware yesterday was one opportunity but if only a hand full attend then the format could not have been right

we need to look for the possative not dwell on the negative

spent mt 2p's worth now

[Tony jinxy froude]

we need to find out what is wanted by the majority, and yes I'm aware yesterday was one opportunity but if only a hand full attend then the format could not have been right

What is the right format then Kevin ? knocking on every door and asking what the membership want ? if they cant write a few words for the club mag, then we are not going to get letters telling us what they want from the club, thats what the AGM was for !, its a case of " i dont want to get involved, let the commitee make the decisions... but if i dont like it i will complain" . I know a lot of members are quite happy just to take the mag & not get involved, i personally dont have a problem with that, however i do have a problem with them complaining when something is not right, then not having a say when it counts. Jinxy

[kevin..in]

we need to find out what is wanted by the majority, and yes I'm aware yesterday was one opportunity but if only a hand full attend then the format could not have been right

What is the right format then Kevin ? knocking on every door and asking what the membership want ? if they cant write a few words for the club mag, then we are not going to get letters telling us what they want from the club, thats what the AGM was for !, its a case of " i dont want to get involved, let the commitee make the decisions... but if i dont like it i will complain" . I know a lot of members are quite happy just to take the mag & not get involved, i personally dont have a problem with that, however i do have a problem with them complaining when something is not right, then not having a say when it counts. Jinxy

I said we need to "Find" the right format if I knew what it was I may have let you in on it before now
I agree with not liking complaints from those who dont want to get involved but slagging of the majority because they dont or cant get to any event is not on

[John R]

Hello Everyone,

Firstly, let me offer apologies for my non attendance of the AGM.

October was (and still is) going to be a difficult month for me, due to work commitments, I had to pass on the Restoration (non)show and a club meeting due to being on the wrong side of the Channel, in fact, I passed Gaydon very late last night on the way home from the ferry.

On a more general note, since being a club area coordinator, I have found that the members in my area seem typical of the ‘club’ member from all walks of life. I have the ‘hardcore’ who will be there, come rain or shine, the one’s who only come if something’s on, and the ‘only once when advice and help is needed’ members. Sadly the latter is (in my experience) very common. I think the same looks to be true of the AGM, the hardcore attended, and the majority are willing to let what will be, will be… I feel we can only push events and welcome all members; we certainly cannot force people to participate.

Now we have a Annual General Meeting, perhaps it’s date can be firmed to the same date each year, so prior arrangements can be made etc.

I am looking forward to reading the minutes when they are released.

Sorry for the ramble.

John

[vix]

We had lots of fun at the meeting - I thought it would be uncomfortable and turn into a fight but it was very constructive and I think we got alot sorted.

I'm glad I can offer a bit more to the club too

Next year I hope the East Anglia region will make more appearances at shows - I'm making it my mission. I hope to arrange a meeting for the 29th October - unfortunately this means I can't help out at the NEC, which I'm sorry about. I would love to play a more active role in event organising next year so if you need a hand Jo, let me know

[waynestoyotamr2]

Can I add something? A point which has been missed I think so far.

Please remember that this is only the FIRST AGM in the clubs history - did we really expect a large turnout?

Just look at Billing? [JAE] I am sure when that happened for the first time, we didnt immediately get 50 cars there?

These things take time to build up..... Realistically, to get a really good attendance, with constructive, helpful people attending - you need to be waiting 3 years.........

Rome wasnt built in a day, and I've always said you cant implement wholesale changes overnight!

[Tony jinxy froude]

I understand what your saying Wayne, but on the flip side of that, are you saying that out of 500+ members only a handfull are unhappy with the way the club was being run ? . I would have thought that all those members who choose just to take the mag & have no other involvement would have been very unhappy with the poor quality & wondered what else they were getting for their membership fee's, hence i for one expected a larger turnout. The club needed to offer more than its currently doing to encourage new members other than just offer a poor quality mag for their subs, which is what Sunday was all about & i believe improvments & recomendations made at the AGM will see the club move forward rather than stagnate as it has done for quite a while now. Im not intentionally having a pop at anyone, but like a handfull of others it seems im passionate about a club which i enjoy being part of. Jinxy

[mr2mk1chick]

Now we have a Annual General Meeting, perhaps it’s date can be firmed to the same date each year, so prior arrangements can be made etc.

I am looking forward to reading the minutes when they are released.

Sorry for the ramble.

John

Hi John
Shame you couldn't come - would have been good to see you again.

The next AGM is provisionally set for Sun 14th Oct 2007 - so get it in your diaries now

[mr2mk1chick]

I'm glad I can offer a bit more to the club too

I would love to play a more active role in event organising next year so if you need a hand Jo, let me know

can't wait for the minutes to be published Vix

I will have to catch up with you soon and we can chat re events schedules for next year