Slipping Clutch

[SuperRedMR2]

Wasn't an MR2 clutch though

[un1eash]

I recently bought a new fensport clutch for £113 including postage

Seems reasonable for Fensport Alex

Mine includes a lighter flywheel

don't tell Tim, he'll have one of his turns

I was going to buy a Toda flywheel and clutch of Tim years ago, wish i had now but it was just after i fitted my new clutch.

[elbon50]

Have prepared the transaxle for removal from the car

All bolts out, shafts off,etc, lowered ready to remove

Box refuses to part from the engine despite much shaking & wriggling

Any ideas please ?

[SuperRedMR2]

Have you taken the flywheel cover off?

[elbon50]

Have you taken the flywheel cover off?

Checked, re-checked & re-checked again

Everything's off (so far as I can see)

[SuperRedMR2]

How many gearbox bolts have you removed? Have you removed the starter motor?

[elbon50]

How many gearbox bolts have you removed? Have you removed the starter motor?

Starter off, two large bolts accessed at top under engine cover off, bottom bolt (also holds bottom of shift bracket) off, bottom bolt (accessed from offside) off

Flywheel inspection cover off, shift bracket stay bolt off, slave cyl bolts off

Box won't separate from engine, just as if T had forgotten to remove a bolt

Doesn't shift at all

[SuperRedMR2]

There are five bolts. You have removed four of the big ones.

The ones you have removed have probably required a 17mm socket. There is another one which requires a 14mm socket. Its near the input shaft end, speedo drive side.

Or if you have removed this, you'll have to get a large lever bar and a hammer.

[aw11rally]

I recommend a bigger hammer and probably a bit more swearing.

[elbon50]

There are five bolts. You have removed four of the big ones.

The ones you have removed have probably required a 17mm socket. There is another one which requires a 14mm socket. Its near the input shaft end, speedo drive side.

Or if you have removed this, you'll have to get a large lever bar and a hammer.

Have removed 4 big bolts Alex

2 with 17 mill heads accessed under engine cover

1 with 17 mill head which also holds bottom of gearshift bracket (goes into bottom of engine block at front)

1 with 14 mill head near output shaft speedo drive side (goes through lug on bottom of engine block at back & into transaxle casting)

So where the heck is the fifth one

[elbon50]

Is this where the fifth bolt would be ?

Bolt number 19 on this pic

There doesnt seem to be any bolt 19 on my C52 box

Wondering if the pic is of a C51



Below is the casing of my "old" gearbox

Clockwise, you can see the hole for the large bolt that holds the trans at the bottom and also the bottom of the gearshift bracket

Then the two starter bolt holes

Then the two large holes to hold the top of the trans

Again no bolt 19

[kaiowas]

1 with 14 mill head near output shaft speedo drive side (goes through lug on bottom of engine block at back & into transaxle casting)

So where the heck is the fifth one

Should be near to that one from memory.

It is common for the locating dowels between engine and gearbox to get stuck pretty tight if it's not been apart for a while though so it might just be a case of "more elbow grease required".

I usually start on the inlet side down near to these two bolts and try to drive an old screwdriver between engine and gearbox to get things started.

That bolt 19 you've marked is on the wrong side (and I think is one of the starter motor bolts)

[SuperRedMR2]

You have taken the gearbox mounts off haven't you Peter?

You won't be able to do get anything moving without taking off the mount directly under the battery tray.

[PW@Woodsport]

I blame Jamex....




....well your gearbox IS jammed

[elbon50]

1 with 14 mill head near output shaft speedo drive side (goes through lug on bottom of engine block at back & into transaxle casting)

So where the heck is the fifth one

Should be near to that one from memory.

It is common for the locating dowels between engine and gearbox to get stuck pretty tight if it's not been apart for a while though so it might just be a case of "more elbow grease required".

I usually start on the inlet side down near to these two bolts and try to drive an old screwdriver between engine and gearbox to get things started

Thank you Kaiowas

There are holes for bolts through the engine endplate into the transaxle casting near the bolt with 14mill head but no bolts in them

Think the trans is just jammed onto the dowels

[SuperRedMR2]

Peter have you removed the mounts?

[boondougal]

Peter have you removed the mounts?

Seconded!

[elbon50]

Peter have you removed the mounts?

The mounts are still attached to the trans but disconnected from the chassis Alex

The engine/axle is tilted down, so the mounts are well clear of their fixing points

ASAP intend to remove the rear torque mount from the trans so can drive an old screwdriver between engine endplate & trans (as Kaiowas suggested)

Perhaps that will start it splitting ?

Don't remember any problem like this when I removed the original trans to replace it with thiis one

[SuperRedMR2]

Well to get the box out from the engine bay you'll have to remove the mounts front and back completely otherwise its a pig to get out and even more trouble getting it back in again.

Have you got anything supporting the box? I only ask because if you haven't and you use a lever or long screwdriver the box may damage your input shaft when it comes off.

[elbon50]

Have you got anything supporting the box? I only ask because if you haven't and you use a lever or long screwdriver the box may damage your input shaft when it comes off.

Yes, large trolley jack under the box and smaller one with wooden block under the engine Alex