AC on UK MK1's

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MY 1989 MK1 tbar has factory fitted A/C and its a UK car originally supplied by Pinewood Toyota. I'm trying to find out more about this option at the time as not every Toyota offered it and I know it was a very expensive option.
Does anyone know much about it, maybe you worked at Pinewood back then when the MK1's were sold. Was the AC fitted in Japan or when the car was imported, how much was it as an option and how many were sold.

Plenty off plastic coats out there, anyone got any info.

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Could have been a dealer fit option - this was available in addition to the factory fit ones.
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I think I once read something about it being an extra £3k! that's a heck of a lot of dosh back in the 80's nevermind today!

I want to have it fitted into mine, was thinking about it yesterday...
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I once sold a whole SC aircon system to a guy who was going to retrofit it to his MK1 - not a job for the lighthearted IMO though!
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I'd guess it would need to be factory fit, which is of course possible, would have been a long wait for the car though.

Reason i don't think dealer fit is likely is mostly due to the inherent complexity of trying to retrofit it.

So i'd think that if it was specified as an option, then it would have led to a UK car being ordered with AC.
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Lauren wrote:Reason i don't think dealer fit is likely is mostly due to the inherent complexity of trying to retrofit it.


Dealer fit kit diagram

http://opc.mr2oc.com/online_parts_catal ... 20type.GIF

Was one on ebay last year IIRC :wink: Wouldn't like the job of fitting it though :shock:
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doesn't look to bad form that diagram. of course, that diagram doesn't show how little space you probably have to fit all of it into lol
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And I bet the installation instructions are in Japanese, or at very best fractured English :lol:
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A/C was always something I wanted on the Na. It was always something I though I needed, but in reality it has little use over what the fully retracted windows can offer on a mild to warm day. On a scorcher of a day its a different matter and is exceptional.
When the a/c is switched on and you find yourself crawling in slow traffic it zaps hp like crazy in the low rpms, does anyone else find this the case? that a/c pump must steal 30% of your power at low revs. I can only imagine it is even worse on an NA.
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010on1986 wrote:A/C was always something I wanted on the Na. It was always something I though I needed, but in reality it has little use over what the fully retracted windows can offer on a mild to warm day. On a scorcher of a day its a different matter and is exceptional.
When the a/c is switched on and you find yourself crawling in slow traffic it zaps hp like crazy in the low rpms, does anyone else find this the case? that a/c pump must steal 30% of your power at low revs. I can only imagine it is even worse on an NA.


We have climate on the SE.. use it quite a lot. Obviously it does take power from the engine, but it isn't an issue as such. The idle automatically raises when the AC comes on.

Have the same in the beemer, but again, no issue as such. Both cars have enough go in them not to be that comprimised by the AC.
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humm, I find in my case you can tell when the a/c clutch is engaging just by your right foot and the necessity to push it down another centimeter or so just to get back to where the throttle was prior to it switching on, have never experienced this in me ma's v6 merc, where the a/c operates seemlessly/unnoticably.

I'd say the a/c performance of the sc is great for cooling but a lousy intrusive system that plays havoc with power delivery at 850 to 2000 rpm. If this is a fault with my car I can't figure what it could be...so I always switch it on when rolling at 2000rpm +. ????
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I want to take it out of mine, been meaning to for years. It makes changing the oil filter more difficult than it needs to be and it is just extra weight in the wonderful green Irish climate where it rains 99% of the time and rarely gets above 12C even in summer.

Anyone want to make me an offer...?
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010on1986 wrote: If this is a fault with my car I can't figure what it could be...so I always switch it on when rolling at 2000rpm +. ????


Sounds like your idle-up VSV isn't working
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I'm sure it idles up, on tickover 850rpm - switch on the a/c and it holds at 1250/1300 rpm. its just when you then accelerate it seems bog down/ sap the power until 2000rpm. Can it lose the idle up when you press the accelerator? Just a niggle, don't have it on an awful lot unless stuck in traffic on one of those rare high summer temperature days.... I even started taking the drivers side tbar out on rare occations...

True, changing the oil filter is a real pain in the ar$e, even worse try getting to the oil pressure sender, tucked in behind the a/c pump. nightmare.
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010on1986 wrote:I'm sure it idles up, on tickover 850rpm - switch on the a/c and it holds at 1250/1300 rpm. its just when you then accelerate it seems bog down/ sap the power until 2000rpm. Can it lose the idle up when you press the accelerator? Just a niggle, don't have it on an awful lot unless stuck in traffic on one of those rare high summer temperature days.... I even started taking the drivers side tbar out on rare occations...

True, changing the oil filter is a real pain in the ar$e, even worse try getting to the oil pressure sender, tucked in behind the a/c pump. nightmare.


Mark always changes teh oil filter on the SE by doing it from the top. Then you have no issue with the compressor getting in the way.
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a friend has recently aquired one of the pinewood MK1s with the aircon fit and as far as I am aware was a dealer option fit, think about 15-30 were sold with it on from pinewoods at the time. Would never buy a car without it again really as essential for todays driving IMHO. Zaps power but then if your stuck in traffic your going no where fast!
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Was it only Pinewood Toyota that offered this service? All the MK1's that were sold via Pinewood had a Pinewood sticker on the back lip of the boot lid, mine has been peeled off but you can still see the imprint, thats how I knew it was supplied by them.
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AW11 Forever..! wrote:Was it only Pinewood Toyota that offered this service? All the MK1's that were sold via Pinewood had a Pinewood sticker on the back lip of the boot lid, mine has been peeled off but you can still see the imprint, thats how I knew it was supplied by them.


Was probably only the dealers that had the facilities that fitted it. Given the cost of it it is no surprise that hardly anyone went for it.
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Evening one and all, i'm the fella that owns the mk1 that Superchargedsam said about, some of you may of know of the car or seen it already, it was the the blue one advertised on ebay for sale earlier on this year,

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As far as i know the one i own is not a "Pinewood" as such (just ignore what Sam says most people do :tongue: ) but the system may of been installed by them. When i brought the car it was 1 owner from new, now the fella i brought it from used to work for toyota, at which dealership i cant remember as the car was first registered in his wife's name, and he was able to buy my aw11 at "trade cost" as it was when the sw20's were now being onto the market and old stock needed to be sold off to make room, from then he sent it off to whatever dealership/company was fitting air-con / climate control at the time and paid to have it installed, again i presume at trade cost within the company, and from 1990 untill 2007 it was used as a run around, school run and trips abroad by his wife and himself untill sometime at the start of this year the engine drew it's last breath and decided that with 78,000 miles under its tyres, con-rod number 1 was no longer fit for this world and severed it self from the crank,

and this is where i step in, winning said car through ebay earlier this year, i have replaced the engine with another 4age, donated from Sam himself , the car is now up and running under it's own steam, but being busy with work and other commitments i have not had the time to get it through a MOT but rest assured it will be on the road sometime, just not anytime soon :thumleft:
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WOW! Now that is incredibly rare. Does it still work? ;)

Also very rare to see the toyota CD player, even Mark's Super Edition doesn't have that.
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