Your opinion: Apexi Power FC v's Motec M4

[paulmann]

Just want to know peoples opinion on the Power FC and the Motec M4 on the Rev3 Tubby. Experiences and stories welcome.
Ta.

[matt_mr2t]

I dont have either but it seems to me like the Power FC can do the job most people need for a fraction of the cost?

[steve b]

the Motec will cost, however isnt the table better than the power FC more mapping points all round?

emerald3D uses the same processor as the M4 and is £500 +£55 boost solinoid & mappings £300 don't know about fitting to an MR2, its £100 to my mazda. Only not so great point is no knock sensor, but as the mapper says if its mapped properly it won't knock anyaway...

[SW20Paul]

Ive got a Power FC on my rev1 and think that for the money its great,

It does lack a few features that the Motec has but then the Motec is a lot more money. But then the PFC has the commander for monitoring.

In the end the power FC is never going to hold back so i dont see the point in spending more on the motec.

Plus on a rev3 it takes about 2mins to fit

[MR2lover]

In terms of power you are not going to gain more by fitting a motec over powerfc if both have been mapped by a decent tuner. The only way the motec over powers the powerfc is it has lots of options and features like launch control, ignition cut over fuel cut, anti lag, etc but all these cost extra to have fitted and intergrated.

Half the extra you dont need anyway like launch control, you just need to learn how to properly launch yourself. Like i doubt mikejc would use launch control when he can launch his car as good as most 4x4 cars, he has the best 0-60ft time for a UK mr2 owner i think

But then others who dont have experience at dragging would benefit from it

Half of the ratings about motecs is pub talk anyway and branded like highstreet clothes.

[matt_mr2t]

the Motec will cost, however isnt the table better than the power FC more mapping points all round?

emerald3D uses the same processor as the M4 and is £500 +£55 boost solinoid & mappings £300 don't know about fitting to an MR2, its £100 to my mazda. Only not so great point is no knock sensor, but as the mapper says if its mapped properly it won't knock anyaway...

You can never say never.

[paulmann]

any motec owners out there?

[JUIC'IN]

The majority of silly high hp cars coming from Japan run PowerFC's. If it's good enough for the Jap's it definately good enough for us!

[EarL]

any motec owners out there?

Yup!

EarL
Mark Edwards
MikeJC
Andy F
Andi M (AM Tuning)

Yes, they are expensive, but you get what you pay for mate.

[matt_mr2t]

Whats that, same results as a PFC and empty pockets

[MR2lover]

but you get what you pay for mate

Yes a nice little sticker that says motec

The majority of silly high hp cars coming from Japan run PowerFC's. If it's good enough for the Jap's it definately good enough for us!

I was about to say that J

[Troubled]

ECU is only as good as the map on it.

People generally go MOTEC for one reason....


.. DAVID ROWE

nuff said.

[matt_mr2t]

I have no idea who Dave Rowe is so it's not enough said

[Troubled]

I have no idea who Dave Rowe is so it's not enough said

he is chief maper for MOTEC-uk - does all teh mapping for the dragster Supras etc you see at the pod / TOTB

It's called total customer service from start to finish, product and mapping from the people who invented the thing - they know it totally inside out


Don't see Apexi UK anywhere
infact look up Apexi on any Japsite and you will see a big disclaimer about soon as it leaves Japan it's over to you.

[EarL]

ECU is only as good as the map on it.

People generally go MOTEC for one reason....


.. DAVID ROWE

nuff said.

Dave Rowe is Motec's best mapper. Bar none.

Ryan, you're telling me you wouldn't go for a Motec (and the nice little sticker) if you had the chance?

Apart from that, he doesn't just do the "dragsters". He does a great deal of the top rally teams too.

[Quigonjay]

The only way the motec over powers the powerfc is it has lots of options and features like launch control, ignition cut over fuel cut, anti lag, etc but all these cost extra to have fitted and intergrated.

powercf pro - £392 delivered from nengun
launch control, ignition cut instead of fuel cut

[ENSMR2]

The only way the motec over powers the powerfc is it has lots of options and features like launch control, ignition cut over fuel cut, anti lag, etc but all these cost extra to have fitted and intergrated.

powercf pro - £392 delivered from nengun
launch control, ignition cut instead of fuel cut

=D>

Pub talk, you gotta love it motec this motec that lol.

[MR2lover]

Ryan, you're telling me you wouldn't go for a Motec (and the nice little sticker) if you had the chance?

No comment

Dave Rowe is Motec's best mapper. Bar none.

He is good dont get me wrong but i doubt he would get any more power/better driviabilty than say adrian smith, paul blamire or rob tweenie as long as you map to the correct a/f put in as much ignition until det is heard etc

Power is not the only thing that is looked at in mapping guys drivability of boost in important also as well as spool up tricks

[jonb-]

Motecs resolution is at least twice the apexis 20x20 but do we really need it? Running crazy numbers, maybe. Running 350bhp and wanting to monitor things, no.

[MR2lover]

powercf pro - £392 delivered from nengun
launch control, ignition cut instead of fuel cut

i was just going to edit my first post, beat me to it =D>