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but surely the technology can be applied somehow?- how about wrapping a cc core in that then all you would need is an oil pump, thermostat/relay and to put a heat exchanger in place of that little grill that people rip off anyway and bobs your uncle 
Did I really have to wait that long for a cold beer. The problem with any refridgeration technology is the length of time needed for it to cool down to a workable temp. There probably is something out there that cools down instantly but at a cost..
they have been a solution to cooling computers for a long time now. iv done alot of water cooling myself for my PC, but there 1 draw back to how they work. you have metal plate with 2 wires comming out. 1 side gets very very cold and the other side get hot. now if you can keep the hot side ventilated your lucks in. condonsation is not a problem in a engine bay like it is in a computers mother board so it may well be worth looking at one big enough to go on top of a chargecooler combined with 2 rogue fans on top your looking at fairley good cooling there. 
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*e=mc2 (untill we harness the those pesky antimatter) you will allways lose energy through this method. it wont work. too must energy is lost through wires etc.. if your luckey you might brake even and there will be no difference whatsoever. .But make sure the CC is in a good place, like on the side were the fuel lines are 
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i guess you could use the same ideas with a super charger and i don't mean the crap you see on ebay. I still mean use a full direct drive supercharger but have it connected to a high rotation elec motor. Oh well some ideas there if anyone wants to actually try it To get the same power output anyway./ alternator will need to supply 10watts of power, which comes from the engine... ... but then theoretically you would need 10watts of hampster power? I mean you don't lose power when you fit a fan to the intercooler or engine lid fans.xxxx wrote:
For instance.... once your engine is warmed up, find somewhere quiet (turn off the radio and heating fan), and turn on your headlights you should hear your engine revs drop slightly and rise back up as you turn them on due to the load on the alternator.*my* take, since I've thought about this for a few years now, although not yet tried things myself..."MR2Beast", although he never stated whether he'd got it to work well (he seemed to encounter a couple of problems). What Jim tried was to use the air-con system to cool the fluid in the CC's reservoir. Apparently it worked very well, but the core kept on breaking from the excessive pressures. Since he couldn't find a core strong enough, he gave up. In fact, I had the EXACT SAME idea for such a system, that I'd planned out prior to even hearing about Ford's system, which made me chuckle, but gutted I didn't come out with it first. I can't say too much about it, because a lot of thinking has gone into it, and I plan to try it out first before talking too much about it.*will* say though is that you don't need the refridgeration to work full time. Basically, on a road car, how often are you on boost? In road car situations, it's rare that you need any more cooling than a well-designed chargecooler system will give. Where such a system *does* have benefits though is during high ambient temps or in race/track conditions.-----------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------Click here for MR2 Mania Website I'm not an expert on intercoolers, but have a doctorate in nonlinear fluid dynamics physics so the general principals I'll mention should be roughly correct. This is because it's not the air temperature lowering which gives more power directly. By cooling the air there are several effects, two of the most important being that you make the air more dense so that more fuel can be added, and secondly because you reduce the risk of detonation.(power) in through fuel. You'll get worse fuel consumption, but my guess is that this isn't the point of the thread. Turbo powered drag racers commonly suffer from heat soak, and on a track the trade off could be usefull. To benefit mostly from this you want to trade power when the throttle is off to when the throttle is on. Using a switched aircon system to aid a convential charge or intercooler would benfit some applications, but weight should also be taken into account here. In my experience with cooling system peltier are only really good for certain applications requiring small size, and they are quite expensive ways to go. However with a correct set up they could be low weight and easily switched, but you'd need quite a peltier system as they're cooling power is pretty low.