Calling all Meister R Coilover owners

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l1ca
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Calling all Meister R Coilover owners

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Im getting quite interested in the Meister R Coilover group buy, however im slightly hesitant in spending the money for a few reasons:

1. Id really like to go out in an sw20 that has these coilovers on, so I can ascertain for myself whether or not its something id like on my own car.

2. Ive not heard any reviews from people who own these as to what they are like in a real world situation. I understand that they have been specifically designed in the UK for UK roads but still the lack of owners reports extending beyond the marketing fluff on the Meister site where the graphs basically say they are perfect at everything...

Or a line or two from an owners perspective saying "they are great" concerns me a little.

For the record this is not a 'build quality' concern, im more than confident that a company has highly regarded as Meister R produces a fantastic product, but I want to know what they are going to be like in real world useage.

Id really want to experience them over speed bumps, town driving, motorway driving and the like and make my own decisions on whether or not I could realistically run these on what could be a daily car.

Are they spine shattering? Comfortable? Offer a level of noticeable performance increase or do they just 'look cool'.

Would any North West owner be kind enough to take me out in their Meister R equipped SW20? Id happily compensate you for the fuel used as well as being eternally grateful.

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adam1989
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Hi,

Can't help you with a ride out as im based in the midlands.

I've had my Meister R's fitted for over 18 months now and they have been used through all weather conditions and with just a bucket of soapy water come up like new everytime when I clean them and still perform as they did when new.

My car had been fitted with Tein Springs and Yellow Bilstein shocks before and the ride was abit harsh. I was expecting a similar sort of ride with the Meister R's, but they're not. I have currently got them set at 10 clicks from soft which is about half way I and I must say that even on this setting I would say the ride was comfortable.

They are very easy to adjust the damping on them with twist knobs on top which are easy access. Lowering them was another easy job too and does not effect the spring rate.

I currently have mine set low and I do struggle with speed bumps, but this is not the coilovers fault. On there softest settings you would not know they were coilovers and perform like standard shocks and springs.

I found the car handled a lot better with these fitted but I don't know whether this is because I had replaced tired and worn shocks with new items.

Adam
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adam1989 wrote:Hi,

Can't help you with a ride out as im based in the midlands.

I've had my Meister R's fitted for over 18 months now and they have been used through all weather conditions and with just a bucket of soapy water come up like new everytime when I clean them and still perform as they did when new.

My car had been fitted with Tein Springs and Yellow Bilstein shocks before and the ride was abit harsh. I was expecting a similar sort of ride with the Meister R's, but they're not. I have currently got them set at 10 clicks from soft which is about half way I and I must say that even on this setting I would say the ride was comfortable.

They are very easy to adjust the damping on them with twist knobs on top which are easy access. Lowering them was another easy job too and does not effect the spring rate.

I currently have mine set low and I do struggle with speed bumps, but this is not the coilovers fault. On there softest settings you would not know they were coilovers and perform like standard shocks and springs.

I found the car handled a lot better with these fitted but I don't know whether this is because I had replaced tired and worn shocks with new items.

Adam


Yep i totally agree with this statement...

I had a mr2 rev 5 na with standard fat wheels and tyres profile 50 with standard dampers... and these meister r on my mr2 turbo with thin 30 profiles sitting on 18" rims is as soft or softer at lowest setting then the standard setup on my na. In my opinon there is no compromise to comfort or handling or quailty.

I had bc coilovers on my mr2 turbo before and sold them because they were too harsh for my liking to get meister r on my mr2 turbo as i knew my friend had them on his s2000 and i couldnt believe how comforty they are... but handled soo well at the same time.

Jerrick does some good deals on group buys call him or mention me and he should do a good deal for you.

If your in london im happy let you come for a ride but cant garrantee your safely
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C35Rob
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Meisters will feel very much like all of the Taiwanese coilovers, since they're pretty much all produced by Taiwan Bor-Chuann (bc racing) if you've got enough money for a trade account they'll make you "your" coilovers in any colour combo, spring rate etc and pop them in a shipping container for you.

Meister spec pretty soft springs, which is why they're "comfortable". They're by no means a bad product, but no different to BC etc.
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Rob85 wrote:Meisters will feel very much like all of the Taiwanese coilovers, since they're pretty much all produced by Taiwan Bor-Chuann (bc racing) if you've got enough money for a trade account they'll make you "your" coilovers in any colour combo, spring rate etc and pop them in a shipping container for you.

Meister spec pretty soft springs, which is why they're "comfortable". They're by no means a bad product, but no different to BC etc.


This is not true...!

Yes they are made in taiwan yes the coilover have same bodys as bc but the meister r have same 5&8 spring rates thats not what makes them softer or comfortyer. Trust me i tried changing the springs on my bc made very little difference.
You can even have no springs on both and bc will still feel hard and you wont even realise there are no spring on. I hate it when people talk about things they havent even tried and tested. Its not the spring that make the coilover hard or soft it the damper... think about it why does the damper have the rebound adjuster for hard and soft at the top which makes a difference. Its albout the dampers bleed valve on the bc they are very small and on the meister r they are bigger it as simple as that in terms of build quality i would say bc and meister are simular which is good quality anyway.
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C35Rob
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Re: Calling all Meister R Coilover owners

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QUOC2008 wrote:
Rob85 wrote:Meisters will feel very much like all of the Taiwanese coilovers, since they're pretty much all produced by Taiwan Bor-Chuann (bc racing) if you've got enough money for a trade account they'll make you "your" coilovers in any colour combo, spring rate etc and pop them in a shipping container for you.

Meister spec pretty soft springs, which is why they're "comfortable". They're by no means a bad product, but no different to BC etc.


This is not true...!

Yes they are made in taiwan yes the coilover have simular bodys as bc but the meister r have same if not simular spring rates thats not what makes them softer or comfortyer. Trust me i tried changing the springs on my bc made very little difference.
You can even have no springs on both and bc will still feel hard and you wont even realise there are no spring on. I hate it when people talk about things they havent even tried and tested. Its not the spring that make the coilover hard or soft it the damper... think about it why does the damper have the rebound adjuster for hard and soft at the top which makes a difference. Its albout the dampers bleed valve on the bc they are very small and on the meister r they are bigger it as simple as that in terms of build quality i would say bc and meister are simular which is good quality anyway.


Comfortyer? :roll:

Without getting into a keyboard argument, I'm pretty confident I know how a damper works... BC and their sub brands can be re valved to suit so it's pretty irrelevant anyway.

But you are correct, Meisters do come with 5/8kg springs, as do BC, which are pretty soft - ideal for road use but if I was tracking the car etc I'd want something harder.

All a matter of personal preference, as long as you're happy then that's cool
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Theres always alot of confirmation bias when it comes to coilovers. I mean how many times have you seen someone post in these types of thread 'oh yeah i spent XXX amount on these coilovers and their rubbish!'

You usualy get that a few months down the line when the new feeling has worn off lol.

As somebody whos wasted probably far too much on suspension bits for these cars i'd rather stick with a company that you know will have done a resonable amount of R&D and that could probably supply a shock dyno if requested.
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Race Idiot wrote:Theres always alot of confirmation bias when it comes to coilovers. I mean how many times have you seen someone post in these types of thread 'oh yeah i spent XXX amount on these coilovers and their rubbish!'

You usualy get that a few months down the line when the new feeling has worn off lol.

As somebody whos wasted probably far too much on suspension bits for these cars i'd rather stick with a company that you know will have done a resonable amount of R&D and that could probably supply a shock dyno if requested.



Yes some people spend amount on coilovers but these are not exspensive coilovers 780 bc are and 770 meister r. Whats your point...? The OP wants to get some opinons and real feedback ONLY from people that have meister r...

I have had bc tein blistens and meister r...

Why is it when i asked the same questions before about coilovers and what to get people just have negative unconstructive feedback and useless comments... i dont get these comments on the evo forums.

I had bc before and found them bumpy, so i got meister r as they are better for road use...
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Re: Calling all Meister R Coilover owners

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Rob85 wrote:
QUOC2008 wrote:
Rob85 wrote:Meisters will feel very much like all of the Taiwanese coilovers, since they're pretty much all produced by Taiwan Bor-Chuann (bc racing) if you've got enough money for a trade account they'll make you "your" coilovers in any colour combo, spring rate etc and pop them in a shipping container for you.

Meister spec pretty soft springs, which is why they're "comfortable". They're by no means a bad product, but no different to BC etc.


This is not true...!

Yes they are made in taiwan yes the coilover have simular bodys as bc but the meister r have same if not simular spring rates thats not what makes them softer or comfortyer. Trust me i tried changing the springs on my bc made very little difference.
You can even have no springs on both and bc will still feel hard and you wont even realise there are no spring on. I hate it when people talk about things they havent even tried and tested. Its not the spring that make the coilover hard or soft it the damper... think about it why does the damper have the rebound adjuster for hard and soft at the top which makes a difference. Its albout the dampers bleed valve on the bc they are very small and on the meister r they are bigger it as simple as that in terms of build quality i would say bc and meister are simular which is good quality anyway.


Comfortyer? :roll:

Without getting into a keyboard argument, I'm pretty confident I know how a damper works... BC and their sub brands can be re valved to suit so it's pretty irrelevant anyway.

But you are correct, Meisters do come with 5/8kg springs, as do BC, which are pretty soft - ideal for road use but if I was tracking the car etc I'd want something harder.

All a matter of personal preference, as long as you're happy then that's cool
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The bc come standard off the shelve with small valves re valveing the damper cost moneys...

Yes your right it down to what you like so fair point... i like to be comfortable... so no offence rob85
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