Removing ignition coil

Discussion and technical advice the SW20 MR2. 3S-GTE, 3S-GE, 3S-FE etc
Anything and everything to do with maintenance, modifications and electrical is in here for the Mk2.

Moderators: IMOC Moderators, IMOC Committee Members

Harold
Posts: 781
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Removing ignition coil

Post by Harold »

Hi chaps,

Planning on changing my coilpack this weekend, but last time I had a look at it the screw heads were pretty damn rusty and seemed to crumble when any twisting force was applied.

What are my best and easiest options for removing these pesky buggers? I've never had to remove a rusty screw before so am unsure of the best method.

And I don't really want to tackle the job until I have everything I need and know what to do, as it's not in the most easily accessible place.

Thanks all.
Peter Gidden
IMOC Affiliated Trackday Organiser
Posts: 10506
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:49 am
Location: South Yorkshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Peter Gidden »

Bolts will be rusted in the coil.

We always replace the bracket with a new one when replacing the coil.
Harold
Posts: 781
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Harold »

Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:Bolts will be rusted in the coil.

We always replace the bracket with a new one when replacing the coil.


So no need for drilling out any screws? I can just take the old coil & bracket and chuck it in the bin?
mr2_ash
Posts: 27
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:15 pm
Location: Cheshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by mr2_ash »

I did this last weekend just simply by drilling out the screw heads and using a small punch.

takes 5 mins - job done!
MartinF
Posts: 494
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:27 pm
Location: Essex
Contact:

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by MartinF »

I've done this recently as well.

Drill out the tops of the bolts, then remove the coil and the heat the remainder with a blow torch and they will come out easy enough with a pair of pliers.

Make sure you replace them with something stainless with an allen head.
Blue Lexus RCF
Black MKIV UK Manual Supra
Green MK2 MR2 Tin Top
mrfil13
Posts: 1102
Joined: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:18 pm
Location: Cambridge (ish)

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by mrfil13 »

What's the part code of the bracket. I took mine off to replace but couldn't get the screw out, only have a drill but no vice so might be tricky.
Harold
Posts: 781
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Harold »

What kind of material drill bit should I be using? And should it be the same/a close diameter to that of the screw itself? And what length & pitch bolts should I be looking for to replace them? Would definitely be much happier if they were S/S with a hex head

Apologies for my noob questions.
Harold
Posts: 781
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Harold »

mrfil13 wrote:What's the part code of the bracket. I took mine off to replace but couldn't get the screw out, only have a drill but no vice so might be tricky.


I found this pic from the archives -
Image

Looks like I'll be ordering one myself.
mrfil13
Posts: 1102
Joined: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:18 pm
Location: Cambridge (ish)

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by mrfil13 »

Excellent, will have to order one :thumleft:
Harold
Posts: 781
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Harold »

Considering that my drill has just died and I can't afford a new one right now, if I just order the above bracket can I avoid any horrible rusty screws and just chuck out the old coil and bracket as a whole?
MartinF
Posts: 494
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:27 pm
Location: Essex
Contact:

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by MartinF »

Have you already managed to get the igniter off ok?

Mine was a royal PITA as the screws and igniter had managed to corrode together, due to two different metals. :mad:
Blue Lexus RCF
Black MKIV UK Manual Supra
Green MK2 MR2 Tin Top
Harold
Posts: 781
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Harold »

MartinF wrote:Have you already managed to get the igniter off ok?

Mine was a royal PITA as the screws and igniter had managed to corrode together, due to two different metals. :mad:


Didn't even get a chance to attempt it this weekend, so I can expect a whole load more rusty screws attaching the igniter to the coil?
Gullzter
Posts: 2844
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:04 am
Location: Glasgow

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Gullzter »

MartinF wrote:Have you already managed to get the igniter off ok?

Mine was a royal PITA as the screws and igniter had managed to corrode together, due to two different metals. :mad:


Mines was corroded together, i think ill get a new bracket and maybe spend a few hours on it when engine is out :-k
Harold
Posts: 781
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Harold »

Hmm, may leave this job for a little while if it's going to involve hours of drilling out rusty screws. With no garage access i'd rather wait until i have a nice sunny day, a working drill, all tools necessary for removing horrible rusty xxxxxx screws and a lot of patience, and maybe a lump hammer for when i want to smash the crap out of it.

I think my current coil is ok at the mo, it's just preventative maintenance.

Thanks for the advice chaps.
Harold
Posts: 781
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Harold »

MartinF wrote:Have you already managed to get the igniter off ok?

Mine was a royal PITA as the screws and igniter had managed to corrode together, due to two different metals. :mad:


If the screws were properly corroded to the igniter did you have to drill out and re-tap?

If this kind of thing is involved then i'll be visiting my local garage.
Poker Face
Posts: 322
Joined: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:12 pm

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Poker Face »

If your replacing the bracket why drill them out ? When I replaced mine I removed the bracket then smashed the crap out of the coil until I could see the heads of the screws and then knocked them off( which was easy due to how much corrosion they had). I didn't replace my bracket I just soaked it in coke and used scotchbrite. It never occurred to me to replace the bracket.
Harold
Posts: 781
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Harold »

Poker Face wrote:If your replacing the bracket why drill them out ? When I replaced mine I removed the bracket then smashed the crap out of the coil until I could see the heads of the screws and then knocked them off( which was easy due to how much corrosion they had). I didn't replace my bracket I just soaked it in coke and used scotchbrite. It never occurred to me to replace the bracket.


When referring to drilling out screws, I was talking about those attaching the igniter to the bracket. Are these the ones you're talking about removing?
Poker Face
Posts: 322
Joined: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:12 pm

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Poker Face »

My mistake my ignitor came off easily and my coil pack was rusted up. :oops:
MartinF
Posts: 494
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:27 pm
Location: Essex
Contact:

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by MartinF »

Harold wrote:
MartinF wrote:Have you already managed to get the igniter off ok?

Mine was a royal PITA as the screws and igniter had managed to corrode together, due to two different metals. :mad:


If the screws were properly corroded to the igniter did you have to drill out and re-tap?

If this kind of thing is involved then i'll be visiting my local garage.


There isn't actually any thread in the igniter, they just pass through and bolt to the bracket. Drilling the heads of was not enough I had to drill them all the way through. I actually had enough meat left on my bracket that I could clean\retap the threads, but if they are cheap enough I'd definitely suggest you save the hassle and get a new one.
Blue Lexus RCF
Black MKIV UK Manual Supra
Green MK2 MR2 Tin Top
Harold
Posts: 781
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: Removing ignition coil

Post by Harold »

Bracket ordered, hoping for a dry weekend and that the igniter screws come out easily!
Post Reply

Return to “MR2 MK2 1990 - 1999 NA & Turbo”