Bc racing coilovers

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audicab26
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Bc racing coilovers

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Hi All
Just bought a set of BC BR series coilovers I asked the dealer b4 I bought them if they came with drop links to which they said yes. Opening them I found only one pair the same length as the rear links plus the instructions give no indication as to what the torque settings are for the top mounts or the hub bolts emailed BC in Bradford and just got a sarcastic response along the lines of if I don't know what I am doing I shouldn't be fitting them myself would have thought that asking pertinent questions like this shows I want them fitted right

Anyway anyone know if the links are just like for like swap and do I torque these to factory settings"???????
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I've never fitted BC's to an SW20 but fitted them on a few other cars (fitted other types of coilovers before also):

I don't ever being given torque figures for top mounts. I have always done them up reasonably tight by hand and checked them for the first couple of months. It sticks in mind from a recent post on here re: BC's the top mount studs can slip if done too tight. I think I only ever had this one one nut before. I just use an 18" bar and tighten them FT (not breaking any sweat to turn them). I wouldn't personally just go and use OEM torque figures on these.

Hub bolts etc I do as tight as I can -ideally with a windy gun or a long breaker bar. There shouldn't be any reason not to stray from OEM figures for these if you want to stick to them

For drop links I'm not sure, no BC's I've had have ever come with them. I don't think I ever had them with others included as standard.

Your response from BC is similar to most other ones I ever had for parts, suppliers assume you know what you're doing.
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Torqued mine up to factory spec (Mk1 MR2). :thumleft:

I got a single pair of drop links with mine as well, next to useless as they're completely the wrong length, fortunately I could move my fronts to the rear (adjustables) and I'll be getting a front pair from TFS when I know what length I need.
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So are you saying that even though they come with a pair of drop links they will be wrong. Do coilovers use shortened or different links from standard?
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The drop links need swapping front to rear you can use your original ones which is what I did when fitting my bc racing coilovers to a mk2 rev 3.

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audicab26 wrote:So are you saying that even though they come with a pair of drop links they will be wrong. Do coilovers use shortened or different links from standard?


They were certainly too long for my setup. From the couple of setups I've looked at they do seem to need a different length, but it may be due to the positioning of the mount on the casing of the coilover. :-k
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I am we'll hacked off with this BC seem to have a good rep for and with mr2 owners yet they don't give you any tech info on fitting apart from the usual tech blurb on anodised this and treated that, absolutely useless without proper fitting instructions £750 paid and I am scrambling around trying to find basic info, I can't believe companies like BC are allowed to get away with it they should give the right info as these only fit an sw20 have they ever fitted and tested them or just let the owners do it for them. Anyway rant over is there anyone out there who can give me a definitive starting point and the correct drop link set up
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I'm on coilovers and my drop links should be 160mm centre to centre. I've just bought some shortened ones for mine, Hopefully they'll be ok :)
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Assuming nothing has changed in the last couple of years, the pair of drop links that come with BCs are fronts, as standard fronts are too long. :thumleft:
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Ryan6926 wrote:I'm on coilovers and my drop links should be 160mm centre to centre. I've just bought some shortened ones for mine, Hopefully they'll be ok :)



Why should you we to mess around trying to find DLs that work with these in the right format, companies charge a price for and advertise a product that they state will fit the car stated yet they say in all their marketing that correct fitting and performance is down to you as the buyer then all you get in the instructions is anodised this powder coated that,performance this and other blurb. As consumers we should for £750 get a product that has tried and tested fitting instructions how we as users tweak them after that is down to us.
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Big_Martin wrote:Assuming nothing has changed in the last couple of years, the pair of drop links that come with BCs are fronts, as standard fronts are too long. :thumleft:


Thanks best answer yet but why can't BC state this in their fitting instructions, it winds me up that basic details are not given with high value products like this, I am going to use the factory torque settings for the pillowball mounts even though BC won't commit, bet if I strip them it will be my fault. I am only fitting coilovers because I am converting my 2 to a 360 replica, the car has a brand new set of KYBs with tein s techs new top mounts and new dust boots but these unfortunately wont work with the conversion
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audicab26 wrote:
Thanks best answer yet but why can't BC state this in their fitting instructions, it winds me up that basic details are not given with high value products like this, I am going to use the factory torque settings for the pillowball mounts even though BC won't commit, bet if I strip them it will be my fault. I am only fitting coilovers because I am converting my 2 to a 360 replica, the car has a brand new set of KYBs with tein s techs new top mounts and new dust boots but these unfortunately wont work with the conversion


Torquing them up to factory setting might strip the thread if it's too much. I've found a couple of forums that say to tighten the top mount nuts to 55 NM. Whilst doing fastening up my top mounts, i did them hand tight then just a little bit more. I've checked them regurlarly since the install and they've not budged.
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I didn't have a torque wrench to hand when I fitted mine, so I tightened everything to what felt right :whistle:
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BC finally got back to me factory length drop links stay on rear, their supplied drop links on the front. Which are the same length as the rears no info on torque settings though. Still hacked off at how shoddy the info is, thank god for the Internet and being able to quiz other users that said I will not be buying or recommending anyone using BC
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audicab26 wrote:BC finally got back to me factory length drop links stay on rear, their supplied drop links on the front. Which are the same length as the rears no info on torque settings though. Still hacked off at how shoddy the info is, thank god for the Internet and being able to quiz other users that said I will not be buying or recommending anyone using BC


I don't remember my MeisterR's or HSD's coming with any torque settings.
:-k

That said i wouldn't of been able to follow them, even if they did come with them, as i don't have a torque wrench! I think they only put 'To be installed by trained professionals only' for this reason.
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audicab26 wrote:BC finally got back to me factory length drop links stay on rear, their supplied drop links on the front. Which are the same length as the rears no info on torque settings though. Still hacked off at how shoddy the info is, thank god for the Internet and being able to quiz other users that said I will not be buying or recommending anyone using BC


Bit harsh. It's not rocket science on how to fit them tbh. Any vital mechanical component isn't really designed to be fitted by someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Most of us here haven't had any issues fitting them. Torque settings are in the BGB anyway. Use that. Droplinks, just measure what you need and then buy a set at the correct length, again, not a particularly difficult job, just depends on your skill level.
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My skill level is fairly high, with regards to torque settings these are based on various factors not always related to original equipment. If you read my 1st post on this I am not being harsh just being realistic £750 for a suspension set up and the instructions say nothing regarding fitting surely a specific fitment has been tried tested and fitted by the component manufacturer to be sure it's safe and fitted to the correct stresses they surely should advise on fitment this ain't a tax disc holder or a fancy gear knobs why should the purchaser guess and make assumptions [/quote]
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Post by rrx »

Having just purchased a set of BC's and when i get a spare day will get round to fitting them im more than impressed with the levels of service, quality and free stickers (important bit). phone them up and they are very interested to know what the car is being used for and the valve and adjust the spring rates to what will work best,
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