Help - Droplinks

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Help - Droplinks

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Bought these replacement drop links off ebay for the rear of an AW11. My car has a mk2 turbo rear arb so do I need different links?

Car was fine when I put it together but about a week later it makes a good awful racket when driving along. I cant find anything loose but these links dont look right to me. They are at an angle and look to short.

Are they right? Do I need different links for my arb? Has the seller sent me the wrong ones?

Help please :)

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http://s259.photobucket.com/albums/hh29 ... EO0071.mp4

The video shows the noise I am getting. Its wheels speed related but only happens on low load. If in neutral then no noise, if above 20% throttle then no noise.
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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I'm sure when you fit the Mk2 ARB you need to "adjust" the drop links so that they are facing the same direction, i also thought they would need a change of length.

I have this job to do next week and am planning on cutting the drop link, threading it and using a connector... effecttively making an adjustable drop link.

the arm on teh ARB needs to be horizontal as i understand it you will need to change the length of standard mk1 Drop links.

Its a cheaper option to get ford focus drop links and cut and shut from there it think.

Fingers crossed i am right!!!!

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Re: Help - Droplinks

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The other thing to check is that the ARB mounts are in the right place, the Mk2 ARB needs the mounts to be moved backwards i think.
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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Wrong ones, the heads need to face the same direction.
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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Do I have the right ones for a standard mk1? If not Ill send them back and get replacements otherwise I will have to buy some from somewhere else.

I dont like the way it drives with these fitted but when I bought the car one link was snapped so its never driven properly lol. At the moment it lifts the inside wheel nearly all the time should it?

Also I seem to have a bucket load of +ve camber on the rears :?

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Like i already said mate, they're the wrong ones.
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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My car has stock (original) droplinks Mr Luke

The heads face opposite ways like the ones in your pic & the rods look same length

Looks to me like you need to use different links with the Mk2 ARB (Heads facing same way & possibly longer rods)

The arms on the end of the ARB should be approx horizontal as Sam said above

Are yours horizontal ?

Perhaps you could cut & modify your new links :?:
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PW@Woodsport wrote:Like i already said mate, they're the wrong ones.


I know you already said that but it doesnt agree with the below?

elbon50 wrote:My car has stock (original) droplinks Mr Luke

The heads face opposite ways like the ones in your pic & the rods look same length

Looks to me like you need to use different links with the Mk2 ARB (Heads facing same way & possibly longer rods)

The arms on the end of the ARB should be approx horizontal as Sam said above

Are yours horizontal ?

Perhaps you could cut & modify your new links :?:


From the sounds of it ive bought rear droplinks for a mk1, however as I dont have a standard setup I need different links.

tbh ill probably just take the rear arb off and get some stiffer springs at some point.

Thanks for help everybody.
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I can't account for someone elses post.

To clarify, you have the wrong links for your ARB, as per my original post you need ones with the heads pointing in the same direction.
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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PW@Woodsport wrote:I can't account for someone elses post.

To clarify, you have the wrong links for your ARB, as per my original post you need ones with the heads pointing in the same direction.


On the other hand I can only report what I find on my car

Which is fitted with original rear droplinks (which are currently connected to a Whiteline ARB)
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Peter with all due respect your car doesn't have a Mk2 ARB fitted, so irrelevant really, as you can see a Mk1 with a Mk2 ARB fitted needs the heads facing same direction.

OP, we normally just cut, rotate and sleeve them ourselves for this mod, if you send me the links i'll do them for you free of charge.
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MrLuke wrote:Do I have the right ones for a standard mk1? If not Ill send them back and get replacements otherwise I will have to buy some from somewhere else


Think the OP wanted to know if he had been sent the wrong links Paul

If so he was thinking of sending em back

If I understand correctly
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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FFS Peter, the wrong links for what? He has a Mk2 ARB fitted, why be so pedantic about it? My original reply was perfect, there was no need to make it any more complicated.

Wrong droplinks for THAT ARB.... jesus!

It makes it very hard to help people sometimes.
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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I think in summary it sounds like the following:-

1. the OP has been sent Mk1 drop links - (prob correctly as per ordered)
2. Standard drop links don't work correctly with the mk2 ARB
3. The drop links will need to be modified to fit the ARB.

i think its quite often the case that when people get cars that have been "modified" without really realising what goes into the modification its easy to caught out when getting spares.

Paul out of interest do you know the length to which you modify them?
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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The wrong links for a normal Mk1 Paul

If i understand correctly OP didn't know he needed different to normal, so ordered normal ones

If he'd been sent something else he'd have sent em back under complaint

That's what I made of his posts
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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Hi Sam, there is a large margin for error when modding them, as long as you keep each side identical lengths you can't go wrong really, half an inch either side of a parallel ARB is fine.

The length will be different from Mk1a to b mind you, they have different mounting points, so a rough measurement from mounting point on the shock tube to parallel ARB (with the lower balljoint on a jack/axle stand) will get you the correct length, but it wouldn't matter if you were out a little as long as each side is the same.
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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The wrong links for a normal Mk1 Paul


It isn't a normal set up though, so any reference to your own cars set up is totally irrelevant.... it's like flogging a dead horse with you Peter.
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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MrLuke wrote:Also I seem to have a bucket load of +ve camber on the rears :?


Nothing to do with ARBs or droplinks.

You need to get your camber adjusted. And then your toe-in.
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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
MrLuke wrote:Also I seem to have a bucket load of +ve camber on the rears :?


Nothing to do with ARBs or droplinks.

You need to get your camber adjusted. And then your toe-in.


Evening sir, indeed, the number of people that adjust camber and don't realize the tracking will be upset is scary!

Where's my £8 part! :D
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Re: Help - Droplinks

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elbon50 wrote:The wrong links for a normal Mk1 Paul

If i understand correctly OP didn't know he needed different to normal, so ordered normal ones

If he'd been sent something else he'd have sent em back under complaint

That's what I made of his posts


This is it.

I bought some for a standard mk1, I didnt know if I had been sent the wrong drop links or whether I needed different links because I have a mk2 ARB.

I know now ;)

As for alignment, yeah everything is out its just taking me a while to work out what. Long and short is one of the previous owners has made a load of wierd tweaks to it which I am slowly finding.

including 10mm toe out at the fronts and +ve camber on the rears.

One day I will have it driving how I want it lol.
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