Formula atlantic 4A-GE for sale, brand new.

[kherseth]

Not my sale obviously, would have made a trackday car with it instantly.

http://hasselgren.com/engines-for-sale/

Must be serious fun/difficult to drive, probably raise a couple of eyebrows too

[FossMan]

$18k!

[Lauren]

Never seen anyone put one of these in an MR2. The odd one has found it's way into an AE86 though:

This one was a build over on AEU86.org:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsxdCZYd ... re=related

Engine porn (start up):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE8uokLSzzA

[pk_090]

when i win the lottery

[elbon50]

Hmmm $18 K for 250 HP

Its a helluva lot of buck for that amount of bang

Nice nevertheless

Presumably thats the ultimate from a 4A engine ?

Peter

[Lauren]

Yes, that's pretty much the ultimate from a naturally aspirated 4AGE. A redline of around 10500rpm is pretty high.

Here's a link to the build of that car with the Formula Atlantic engine. The guy was building a TRD N2 replica:

http://www.aeu86.org/viewtopic/nzae86s- ... t=atlantic

[elbon50]

Its a yummy looking little engine Lauren

Running a pair of twin choke Webers

Why do the cam covers rise up like that at the drive end ?

Peter

[kherseth]

I guess the biggest problem, besides the price, is to service it, from what i found over on another forum the engine rebuild interval was about 200miles. It supposedly eats crankshaft bearings for breakfast, and at a cost of 5300$ at toysport, a crank failure is expensive enough.

[Lauren]

The cam covers rise up because 'Formula Atlantic' was a single seater American race series and the cam cover mounted the engine rigidly to the chassis.

[elbon50]

I guess the biggest problem, besides the price, is to service it, from what i found over on another forum the engine rebuild interval was about 200miles. It supposedly eats crankshaft bearings for breakfast, and at a cost of 5300$ at toysport, a crank failure is expensive enough.

Used just for sprints & hillclimbs it could almost be a practical proposition for two or three years without a re-build I suppose Kim

But as the man said the first thing you need for a project like that is a very big pile of money

Peter

[kherseth]

I guess the biggest problem, besides the price, is to service it, from what i found over on another forum the engine rebuild interval was about 200miles. It supposedly eats crankshaft bearings for breakfast, and at a cost of 5300$ at toysport, a crank failure is expensive enough.

Used just for sprints & hillclimbs it could almost be a practical proposition for two or three years without a re-build I suppose Kim

But as the man said the first thing you need for a project like that is a very big pile of money

Peter

Of course, for short track racing the servicing is less of a problem. Pretty sure it is just about useless for road use anyways. As long as you stick to to the intervals i guess it might run for a long time too.

[PW@Woodsport]

Not just a huge pile of money but the ability to swallow a lot of pride when a more powerful non 4a-ge'd version goes sailing past.

Having a 4age in that state of tune for that sort of money does nothing for me. A 2gr'd or lightly tuned 3s-gte version will kill that in every dept for half the cost.

Nice engine as far as engines go though

[kherseth]

Not just a huge pile of money but the ability to swallow a lot of pride when a more powerful non 4a-ge'd version goes sailing past.

Having a 4age in that state of tune for that sort of money does nothing for me. A 2gr'd or lightly tuned 3s-gte version will kill that in every dept for half the cost.

Nice engine as far as engines go though

I think the joy of revving above 10krpm would compensate for the lost pride IMO

[Lauren]

I think the joy of revving above 10krpm would compensate for the lost pride IMO

Absolutely and the razor throttle response would make it a joy to steer on the throttle.

[PW@Woodsport]

You can do the same thing with a Hyabusa engine, that doesn't necessarily make it the right choice.

There's not a single one of you that would pay $18k for that engine even if you had it to blow, it's overpriced, overtuned and underpowered.

Time to take off the 4a-ge tinted specs, it would be nice to own, but only if it was sensible money.

[elbon50]

£ 11,600 approx. Definately not for me

Could buy a decent competition car all set up & ready to go for that

Peter

[cartledge_uk]

But paul, if you were hillclimbing and sprinting. The formula atlantic engine would keep you in a std roadgoing class 1.4L-1.8L (ish club dependent). any conversions would put you in sports libre against ex wrc rally cars.

But from a practical point of view. completely agree a swap would be better

[tonigmr2]

Hmmn, I think that would be quite something to drive and pretty unique. Fancy it for that alone.

[elbon50]

Hmmn, I think that would be quite something to drive and pretty unique. Fancy it for that alone.

Yes but would you fancy spending £11, 600 to get it Toni

Peter

[tonigmr2]

For the only Atlantic engine in the UK? If I had the wonga yes. But I already spent more than that on the 4ag I have.