Worlds first 2gr-fe Mk1- Now running

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Re: Worlds first 2gr-fe Mk1- Now running

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I think 2gr mk1 is going to be, xxxx your pants fast. Still not convinced that a poor little mk1 chassis will handle all that power on a track.

..... But would love a left seat in one, see how it compares to my mk 1.5
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The chassis is being suitably upgraded to cope though, we have even beefed up the torque mount areas considerably....

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Quick update, the bay is now structurally finished and repainted ready for the new engine...

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We have undersealed the car, added a koni suspension kit, polybushed the whole car and added a Mk2 Turbo rear ARB....

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There will be as many chassis stiffeners and braces going on as we can possibly fit.
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Well today saw the fidanza fitted, ACT clutch installed and the LSD gearbox fitted, then the whole lot refitted into the fresh engine bay...

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Some things are just meant to be, this left side radiator hose is the stock 4a-ge one, and it fits perfectly, no trimming or adjusting, it just fits. I also added the heater hoses, fuel pressure regulator and worked out the placement of a few other things, we have loads of room in this bay surprisingly.

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An overview of the bay as it looks now... personally i think we should leave the back window out permanently :)

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want want want :bounce:
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Today saw 90% of the wiring completed, this corner is where the ECU is going to live, i still need to make brackets for it etc but it's a nice dry corner away from the engine bay heat.

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The ITG air filter now fitted...

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Engine bay overview...

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Here is our chosen exhaust for this project, a Mk2 HKS system, it is the only one that satisfies all of Dirans requirements, has a low key look about it (ish!) , good silencers on it so shouldn't be too loud (fingers crossed) and has the smallest tips i could find (DM hates big bin lids).

It has a 2.5" inlet on it, which has been our only concession, i know it should be 3" to take full advantage of the 2gr but i could not find anything 3" that ticked all of the other boxes, so this system is the best compromise. I am going to remove the cut out from the drivers side valence and respray it so it looks equal both sides.

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Today we got the Frankenflanges fitted with new wheel bearings and seals, Marc has done a great job here, this is the hub fitted and complete Mk2 turbo driveshaft inserted....

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Also today we managed a bit of a first, we did talk yesterday about the possibility of using the camry torque mount shock absorber on an Mr2, well it turned out to be easier than i thought. The shock itself only works in a "pull" fashion, so it has hardly any resistance compressing it like a regular suspension shock, it's resistance is all when pulling it, so it has to go on the front torque mount to do its job properly.

Here it is tack welded in situ, i have adapted the camry top mount onto the Mr2 torque mount bracket and modified the aw11 lower mount with a braced bolt and mounting tube. I think this is great and could end up being the next big mod on all conversions.

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As you know by now this is just the tack welded mocked up stage, it needs removing and painting. I also need to make a nice aluminium heatshield for it because the exhaust will run nearby.

There are a lot of first time mods on this car but it really is coming together now.
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Looking good, Mr.Woods..!

You should have been working for Toyota in the Late-90's/early 00's: maybe they wouldn't have gone off the rails so much re: exciting sporty vehicles...!
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The other V6 conversion, that didn't stoke my fire.


This, with that power, wow. Shame the price of the engine is more than most mk2's ](*,)

Great effort Paul, I bet it's a silky smooth engine with lovely delivery.
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Matt, way more powerful to drive than many modified rev3 turbos we have had.... just insane power delivery from very early on.
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I'm not sure they'd want me at Toyota greg lol , you just know for a fact the Mk4 Mr2 would be W16 quad turbo.

Today saw the WS TD lid painted, still needs a flat and polish but this is one lovely colour.... we also meshed the vents, which will be done black.

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Also today work started on the Woodsport Aluminium rad upgrade, this is the same kit i developed for my Mk1 V8 and when i have worked out all of the details will be available as a kit for homebuilders. It's 50mm thick and held my V8 at 90* with very little fan use and no air flowing through it.... a thing of beauty in my opinion.

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It's got similar power and torque to my old tubby paul but i'm guessing the power delivery would be much more pleasant and without the noise and harshness. What's the fit like in a mk 2?
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Yes that's true Matt it is the way this engine delivers that power that makes it so sweet, i find modified turbos a bit too "on/off" for my liking but i still like them a lot. The V6 is just very refined and makes a superb driving car.

Here's a 2gr we put in a Mk2... 95% finished.

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Spent a few days making the downpipes on this one, i can get a much cleaner sweep on the rear bank on a Mk1 2gr swap, and as a result a better Y pipe in my opinion...

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Then fitted to the car....

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Can anyone spot anths contribution?

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The first 2gr-fe powered Mk1 Mr2 in the world is now running...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZssEbM-o2E
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The NOISE!!! the difference between tickover and rev up is massive! good work :thumleft:
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You should hear them being driven under load, the sound they make is immense, a proper baby Ferrari.
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Today saw the car rebuilt, the WS TD lid polished and fitted, new back window put in... boooo! and everything finished off in the engine bay 100%.

So as soon as we get the brake upgrades fitted this thing is ready to rock...

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If only people knew what lies beneath!!

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Re: Worlds first 2gr-fe Mk1- Now running

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PW@Woodsport wrote:The first 2gr-fe powered Mk1 Mr2 in the world is now running...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZssEbM-o2E


It's a 2GRRRRRRRRRRR-FE. :lol:

Sounds and looks superb Paul. :thumleft:
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Thanks chris, we are rather proud of this one... a very special Mr2.
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Re: Worlds first 2gr-fe Mk1- Now running

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aw11rally wrote:
Jimbo_Jet wrote:Astonishing :D I'm already saving my pennies for when my 4AGE eventually snuffs it! :wink:


A 4AGE snuff it!!! NEVER


And that's the kicker. I can see myself going for the V6 without hesitation if the current engine blew up, but I can't bring myself to bin a perfectly good engine from an otherwise sound and std car. And given a car I'd cheerfully chop up, I wouldn't want to fork out the dosh on it.

And a 4A-GE just isn't likely to blow up.....

Hmmmmm.

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