NA MR2 v Seat Cupra R - Place your bets...

[Snelly]

I have (as you know from looking at my garage) a NA rev2 t-bar MR2 with scorpion decat SS and a k&n. A collegue at work has a standard 150bhp diesel Seat Cupra R. As road racing is highly illegal, we can't put them up against eachother.... but what do you recon would win a straight drag race? The Cupra has plenty of torque and is light... but slightly less BHP. 0-62 mph in the cupra takes 8.6 seconds (according to the Seat website).

Just wondered if i'd face even a remote chance of keeping up...?

[Steve_Rutter]

Borrowed one of the salesman's cupra diesels at work the other day, seriously fast piece of kit, the turbo starts whistling almost immediately and that thing flew, seriously impressed with it, had no idea it would be that fast for a diesel, certainly felt a lot faster than those figures suggest. Good luck to you mate but don't feel bad if he wins.

[matt*79]

If you beat him, he will only go and by a proper Cupra R (non diesel 225bhp)

[michael]

If I was given the option of driving either in a race I'd opt for the Cupra to be honest.

[BLOODUK]

CUPRA : 210 lb-ft Torque
MR2 MK2 NA : 140 lb-ft Torque
MR2 TURBO : 200 lb-ft Torque


Cupra would win against an NA but not a turbo
if the cupra was shipped, then slight modifications
would eat the cupra

[MR2DIE4]

0-60 would get you there faster, but defenitly NOT from rolling starts and not on higher speeds.

i drive a '91 3S-GE, my uncle has a 4wd cupra 1.9TDI 150 and to 60 i am a full second faster, after that, he pulls hard on me....fast!

from a rolling start , there's no question, i can't beat him! ever.

[ENSMR2]

CUPRA : 210 lb-ft Torque

Is that right?

Thats a lot of torque for a car with 150bhp.

[BLOODUK]

CUPRA : 210 lb-ft Torque

Is that right?

Thats a lot of torque for a car with 150bhp.

I cant find the bloody info now

[MegatronUK]

Not really. Diesels always have WAY more torque than horsepower, TD's even more so. 210lb/ft sounds about right.

[jimGTS]

CUPRA : 210 lb-ft Torque
MR2 MK2 NA : 140 lb-ft Torque
MR2 TURBO : 200 lb-ft Torque


Cupra would win against an NA but not a turbo
if the cupra was shipped, then slight modifications
would eat the cupra

pretty sure tubbies have 220 lbft of torque mate!!!!
in all the revs!

[Dale_V]

Id say the NA will win from standing. From rolling however is a different story.... unless you drop a few gears then you will have the edge there too

[screech]

200lb/ft is the american versions blooduk

[BLOODUK]

200lb/ft is the american versions blooduk

ta

[oddball]

I gave up a td A3 (which is basically the same engine) for my rev3 n/a, and off the line you will pull ahead (thanks to the gearing of the diesel) but you wont stay ahead for long. Modern diesels are not the sluggish oil burners they used to be, and if there is a hill involved your in trouble! My advice is get in front first and do everything you can to keep him behind you, its not sporting but hey.......

[jonno]

CUPRA : 210 lb-ft Torque

Is that right?

Thats a lot of torque for a car with 150bhp.

It doesent rev very high, power is a function of torque and revs.