[All] [Generic] What should've the Mk2 designers included?

[KrisMoyse]

Just in my own little world driving into work this morning and I thought about posting this thread (I know...it really is sad). I saw a couple of Mk3s and wondered how they went from the Mk2 to to that and the design process involved. I imagined them digging round on forums looking for threads like this for ideas and that.

When designing the Mk2, what do you think the designers should have included?

• Interior
  Exterior
  Mechanical
  Electrical
  ...everything

Just thought it'd be interesting to find out how the owners would have done it or what they would've changed, added etc

[MartG]

A V6 option

[Spidey]

A v6

[KrisMoyse]

Seems probably overshadowed by the above comments but....cupholders lol

[KrisMoyse]

Got thinking about why they only did a 1.8 in the Mk3 and the only reason I could come up with is that so many people had trashed their Mk2s because they had more power than they could handle and maybe Toyota had received complaints. Therefore they played it safe and went with a 1.8?

Just an idea I had whilst pottering on to work lol

[Club Tropicana]

That roads have bends (I have a rev3 turbo by the way)

[Driftlimits Performance]

you sound like a bunch of yanks!

We do turbo's! Not displacement!

[mrfil13]

^^

Maybe a lighter back end and t-bars that never ever leak

[Driftlimits Performance]

a Targa top?

[Spidey]

Now, don't shoot me down -but IMO, an option of either low-rise or flushmount headlights

Rob

[TheRoadWarrior]

Dont forget the MK2 was designed in the mid/late 80's; Pop-ups were COOL!

[Spidey]

Dont forget the MK2 was designed in the mid/late 80's; Pop-ups were COOL!

Yes, I agree - now, I think they've become Pop-(too far)-Ups !

Rob

[KrisMoyse]

Now, don't shoot me down -but IMO, an option of either low-rise or flushmount headlights

Rob

Not sure about the flush-mounts but I do agree with you on the low-rise ones

[Greddy-Matt]

Proper hose clips unlike the pronged ones that double up as razorblades when you catch your hands on them

An oil dip stick that is actually easy to reach and put back in without having to bend the damned thing in half (tubby)

plastic undertray bolts that dont sieze and snap off

[KrisMoyse]

An oil dip stick that is actually easy to reach and put back in without having to bend the damned thing in half

Amen to that for a N/A as well!

[BenF]

Kris,

Good question.

IMO the main aims with the Roadster were to build a lightweight drivers car that handled well. MrT could have fitted the 2ZZ 190bhp lump (its a popular swap) but the 140bhp 1ZZ lump was enough with 975kgs to make an entertaining car. In keeping the weight down, compromises had to be made however.

The Mk2 in comparison is heavier and a better 'GT' car, espeically as a turbo, but on the limit isn't a progressive as the Roadster when both have standard suspension.

The Mk3 it is very comparable to the Mk1 NA in terms of straight line speed and feedback to the driver, but does have the edge over it in terms of handling.

For me, adding a turbo kit gives me the fix I need as a torque junkie- V6 would be nice for aural entertainment, but some wastegate chatter is also good

[KrisMoyse]

Never driven a Mk3 so I didn't know it handled well.

Not only that but to hear it handles better than a Mk1...I'm lookin at it in a completely different way now! lol

[Harry]

When designing the Mk2, what do you think the designers should have included?

• Interior
  Exterior
  Mechanical
  Electrical
  everything

For myself two specific MR 2's a road version and a track version, is the one I would like to discuss:




Target weight 1000-1100 KG
Full Carbon Fibre Body [&] Kit-If painted Pearl:[Red White Black Silver Gun Metal Yellow Blue Full Carbon Interior-Seats-Door Cards-Dials. Steering-Roof Trim-Carbon Fibre Roll Cage Built through the chassis to permit more cabin space. Massive Carbon Aero Wing height, and angles of attack and blade adjustable. Flush lights. [Lightweight glass windows.]Hard Top Carbon. Massive flared and smoothed arches.



V8:Light Alloy Block @ 650 torque!
ENGINE:2.2 L Stroked Lightweight Inertia. Fully balanced Aero space heat treated coatings on pistons and Turbo parts. 4" Intake and Down pipe-Exhaust divided BY THREE 4-5-6" FLARED twin exit Titanium, with in cabin adjustable electronic baffle [90-150 DB*] A [GT Turbo*] as suggested by you[IMOCUK*]Buffs. Throttle bodies-exhaust manifold-intake manifold. Charge cooler-front Rad-water injection all with warning in cabin views of stats .water flow.400-600 BHP*[1.4 BAR-2 BAR BOOST-SHELL V POWER AND C 16 Race Fuel Options. Direct Ignition. 12 MM TREBLE wrapped Super weaved woven protected space material Ignition Leeds/Carbon fibre.



ECU:Built in in dash hand control commander with computer port and direct plug in board computer and also port to lap top fully easy user use.ALL Carbon white dials and gauges.



Chassis: Rose jointed every thing: TRD-Tein-Toms-full light weight materials-upper lower-struts braces anti roll bars. In fact one of those is it called mono frame chassis as used by a certain LE MANS Racer? You know the one/type.In cabin fully adjustable suspension coil over settings electronically. Traction control auto or off switch!= Good luck!




Other Aerodynamics: Flat bottom-rear carbon fibre diffuser/s-front adjustable bonnet and bumper carbon fibre aero wings in cabin electronically adjustable via ECU and G force/speed sensors and or manual over ride.



Brakes: Massive lightweight AP type if not AP brakes disks 6 pot front and rear with in cabin brake adjust bias and obviously master brake cylinder to match-brake lines-dot fluid[*Rogue Motorsport Carbo Tech Brake Pads*Free Bump] [LMAO!] No ABS-NO air-con-no heavy copper wiring-no waste no nonsense un needed any thing that spells weight!




Gearbox:Dog box with [long] final drive 200 mph and another setting making it 150 mph maximum but [short]t settings on final ratios. Carbon or what ever drive shafts heavy duty type.






Wheels naturally carbon fibre either silver carbon,bronze tinge carbon,dark normal carbon and or colour coded to your paint powder coat tone. Thick 5 spoke-Super deep dish say 8" front and 10" front. 17" Rims 8 & 10" wide Rims 245-40-17" & 285-40-17" Track tyres.

Any more to add?

Price £19 000 to [IMOCUK] members and £35 000 to others to keep prices good demand up and exclusive! ha ha ha

[Harry]

Dont forget the MK2 was designed in the mid/late 80's; Pop-ups were COOL!

Yes, I agree - now, I think they've become Pop-(too far)-Ups !
Rob

ha ha ha LMAO!

[Si_Crewe]

I know this is kinda picky and a bit too fundamental but anyway...

I wish they'd made it so the side windows sloped inward by another couple of inches.
When you look at the Mk2 from the side (or almost all angles) it looks very swoopy and curvy. However, when you look at it from the front the doors look curvy but then the windows just seem to be very upright.
Even if they'd made the roof an inch or so narrower on each side it would have allowed the windows to curve inwards a bit more for that proper "supercar" look.

When I compare my 1992 MR2 to my 2001 BMW about the only things I'd change on the MR2 would be to have a radio aerial built into the windscreen surround and a dashboard (and interior in general) lit in a more modern way.

Oh and indicators on the correct side of the bloody steering wheel!