[Mk2] [Turbo] Mr2 Turbo reliability

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[Mk2] [Turbo] Mr2 Turbo reliability

Post by milesmr2 »

Hi there im new here,

Just a quick question really, i tried using the search button first but i couldnt really find the answer i was looking for?im looking to buy a mr2 turbo rev 3 probs around april/may time but want to know how reliable they are in general i know it depends on how well looked after they are etc but just want to know if anything is prone to going regularly?and what sort of mpg are they likely to return?

thanks in advance and sorry if i didnt look hard enough on the search #-o
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Very very reliable its a Toyota after all.

MPG not to good average about 25mpg.

Go really steady on a Mway you can get upto about 32MPG this can go down to less than 10mpg when being a bit hefty with the right foot.

It has been covered a few times have a good search around heres a couple of threads to read through

http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic. ... eliability

http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic. ... eliability
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Post by Martin F »

welcome to the site mate, i suspect your going to get loads of replies good and bad. i guess its the same with any car...

i had a rev1 turbo for a year which started first time , all the time but the clutch and alternator needed replacing plus some tyres but they don't really count..

I've owned my present car which is the rev3 for 27 months and have had no issues with it apart from a faulty knock sensor and a bad earth(caused by myself) , lol and a leaky t-bar...very reliable for such an old car...there are good examples out there but there are some bad ones as well so be careful when choosing your car.

on short trips i get around 17 mpg.
a thrash about in the summer is a bit less
long journey`s cruising around 70 to 100 then im getting around 30 mpg, its just around town and when accelerating hard that it can become quite expensive, oh, and depends on what mods your running... :lol:
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Post by mattcambs »

I'll get slated for this, but you're right to get a Rev3. It seems that the peeps on here with all the troubles are Rev1/2 owners.

I have 3 friends all with Rev3s and they are bullit proof. Seriously.

Do lots of research on here about the weaker service items and if you're not a DIY person there are some great specialists: Rogue (my own personal recommendation), 3S, Skywalker, xxxx......

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Mine's been very reliable so far - things hav gone as they would in any car of this age - both calipers have seized in the last 6 months and the front shocks will need replacing asap, otherwise very good. I get around 26mpg on a run, otherwise its a bit closer to 20ish i would have thought, but if you have a lead foot - well, its expensive! Probably a bit better in a totally standard tubby mind.
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Had my rev3 just over 12 months and covered over 20,000 miles with little or no problems.
Other than oil/filter change every 5000miles and new rear tyres and a slightly sticking piston in my front caliper no other work needed.
Fuel anywhere between 25-29mpg with sensible driving, close to 20mpg with spirited driving.
For a car 12 years old its been remarkably reliable.
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Post by milesmr2 »

thanks for all the replies guys:) im probably looking to spend between 3-3.5k do you think this will get me a fairly decent one or am i asking too much for that sort of money?id rather save the extra and get a decent car to start with than throwing money at a dog!
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Yeah, these cars are reliable. Only thing to watch for is owners who have raised the boost high without uprating other parts.

The average mpg seems to be around 22-24. To get up towards 30 you'd have to drive off boost pretty much all the time. These figures are good when you consider the performance.

I agree rev 3 is the way to go. I've only had mine for 5 months but it's been all good and starts on the button. Just needed a new clutch, thermostat and driveshaft seals but they're things I was aware of and it's expected at 80k miles.

Rev 2's are okay although head gaskets are weak and the airflow meter can cause a few issues with dump valves etc.
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Post by TUBBY-DEUCE »

ive been a proud owner of a rev2 now for 2years, breazes though mot everytime with praise, and the only problem to date is a seized caliper piston, toyota= :thumleft: find a guddun and reap the rewards
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Post by BenF »

Just was chatting earlier to the guy who bought my old Rev2 (running 300bhp) and it has now done 296 k kms - 186,000 miles.

There aren't any fundamental flaws with the engine - change wheel bearings, clutch etc as needed. Leaks from the Heater Matrix pipes are perhaps the only weak point.
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Post by PW@Woodsport »

unfortunately with threads like this you are always going to get the owners who have never had a problem (or very few probs) posting about how reliable the turbo motors are and this will not give an accurate reflection of the reliability.... sadly the cross sectional truth across the whole mr2 community is the reverse,there are always many more mr2 turbo problem threads on every mr2 forums mechanical section than any other type of mr2,thats despite NA mr2's vastly outnumbering turbos too.They simply arent that reliable when you look at the whole mr2 community.Mr2 forums are self polling in a way,you just need to monitor how many turbo v NA threads appear and it gives you a good indication.

Also as a garage we see a lot more turbo problems than NA,but admittedly there seem to be a lot less issues with rev3 turbos...the majority of problems are from rev1 and rev2 turbos.
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Rev1 and Rev2 are now between 16 and 19 years old, and still pretty good. Body wise they rarely have rot/rust. Electrics pretty much always work spot on, the engines have a few issues, usually due to being thrashed and not maintained properly. Compare with the Nissan of the day, the S13 - that rots like a tin can. Ford had the XR3i until 1991, that's a rot box too with an engine that would barely do 80,000miles... um... I guess the Mitsubishi 3000gto is pretty good body wise, but the 'tour-de-force- technical package can gliche...
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I had a rev3 n/a for a couple of years and had next to no probs, I then bought a rev 1 Turbo from an respected affiliate of this site for top dollar, and after various problems and 4 months, it completely died and I'm still waiting to get it fixed.
probably needs new engine. Personally I wish i'd stuck with the n/a.
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Post by DavidM »

Any 10+ year old car is going to have normal wear and tear issues, IMO turbo's more so, but if you get a good one, well looked after and maintained and you do the same then it will serve you well.
On the other hand if you don't pick up a decent example then you'll end up putting right what the previous owner neglected, after all a lot of people start selling their cars (not just MR2's) when they start experiencing problems.
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PW@Woodsport wrote:unfortunately with threads like this you are always going to get the owners who have never had a problem (or very few probs) posting about how reliable the turbo motors are and this will not give an accurate reflection of the reliability.... sadly the cross sectional truth across the whole mr2 community is the reverse,there are always many more mr2 turbo problem threads on every mr2 forums mechanical section than any other type of mr2,thats despite NA mr2's vastly outnumbering turbos too.They simply arent that reliable when you look at the whole mr2 community.Mr2 forums are self polling in a way,you just need to monitor how many turbo v NA threads appear and it gives you a good indication.

Also as a garage we see a lot more turbo problems than NA,but admittedly there seem to be a lot less issues with rev3 turbos...the majority of problems are from rev1 and rev2 turbos.


Paul, fair point - I guess any forced induction engine is going to be more complex, and so as a result have more potential for things to go wrong.

However - If the car has been well maintained and modified by someone who knew what they're doing, it should be reliable. Personally I had 120,000 miles in my turbo without being stranded at the side of the road, and that had been modified to run a reliable 280-300bhp and did many trackdays.

Sadly, there are some badly treated Rev1 - 2 cars out there whose owners have upped the boost to 17psi, left the timing standard and run normal unleaded fuel - and wonder why the car runs so badly :?

My Mk1 NA trackcar by comparison has broken down a few times (alternator x2, HG x1 ) but it is now 23 years old so that's fair enough.
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