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You can FEEL the car going from hard-right switching to hard-left and the tyres squirming from one side to the other.(stock rev2 tubby) and with the correct pressures you can rock the car left and right and watch the tyres squirm like blancmange. It's awful!- Luthor. With I'd got the Bridgstone S03's again but couldn't find them...(I know the profile is non-standard) and at the rear Kumho ECSTA. these were fine.*upgrading* to the Toyo, but it appears not. I am really disappointed in them. Ah well, at least others are having similar issues.
You get what you pay for i'm afraid.- Circuit Pack 
I tried the Toyos and found exactly the same as you, despite people raving about them. The SO3s are no longer made in the right sizes, and neither are the Goodyear F1s (which were the 2 I would have been after). (which at Micheldever is the 2nd most expensive tyre behind the Yoko A-022) at £326 a set fitted...
Think I will go cry now! luthor1 wrote:I've only ever heard RAVE reviews about the TOYO T1-R
Like I said, I was happier with the Kumho which WAS a cheap one!!!
- Circuit Pack - I have looked at the prices of many tyres from many places. I have read many reviews, and the Toyo T1-R is *not* cheap and since it gives this wierd handling issue, it's NOT a good choice for the MR2. It's NOT a good tyre in THAT size on my car. That's all.- at £326 a set it's top whack and not many tyres for the 15" Mk2 rim are more expensive, and not many places are considerably cheaper than Micheldever Tyres. 
.. T1-S is a different kettle of fish, much better tyre IMOjimGTS wrote:i would have thought any tyre with sidewalls of 50 and 55 are going to give that effect.
In fact good tyre in 50 profile is great for track days too - gives enough confidence but has very nice characteristics when you lose the traction. 
£240 for all 4 corners, whereas Pirelli Pzeros cost me £220 for the rears alone 
& Goodyear Eagle F1s - so went for the F1s 
Previously I have Bridgestone S03 on the front in the 195 50 15 (I know the profile is non-standard) and at the rear Kumho ECSTA. these were fine. *upgrading* to the Toyo, but it appears not. However, a change may be forced upon me by lack of availability as manufacturers keep dropping certain sizes.*to* the T1-R from the S03 at the front, didn't really believe that was the upgrade, but since the S03 isn't available, then I thought the T1R was an upgrade from the Kumho. I've read other reviews of performance cars with good results with the T1R and on tyres at least, price seems to indicate performance and the T1R is 50% more than the T1-R. I have model 712 205/40-17 on one of my cars and sidewalls are definately quite stiff. Unfortunately they are lacking grip in the dry compared to best tyres and they are horrible in the wet, it feels that when it starts to slide it will never get grip again...ast wrote:225/50-15 tyre situation is so bad that it made me buy 16" wheels today.
(and will keep saying....) Dunlop SP9000s. They might not be cheap, but a full set was under £400 fitted, and are available in the correct standard sizes. Fantastic grip wet or dry, and no spongy sidewalls. I loved the old T1-Ss on my old 205 GTi, plenty of grip in the wet and dry so i'll be interested to see how these perform. 1 with T1-R, the other with T1-S, so I often get the back to back comparison between the 2.(this may be the sidewall strength), they tram line slightly and the dry grip is well below that of the T1-R's Interesting that others find T1-S better. Suppose it's all by the by now, as the T1-S is obsolete anyway.allan welsh wrote:toyo's ARE rubbish
my musings on the topic
http://www.awpish.co.uk/motor/tubby/f1Tyres.html
I've just replaced my rears and have gone back to the T1-R for every day driving. I loved the grip in the dry. They really do hang on for a budget tyre. Wear rate was pretty good too seeing the level of abuse that's been thrown at them since the car's been back on the road. Wet weather grip is also good, reletively speaking. Pretty crap in the wet though as they are a semi slick, so that really speaks for itself.