How to make the car less crashy??

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Re: How to make the car less crashy??

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I mean it's not like you can buy the oem bushings anymore, or at least I don't think anyones bothered to try.

I kinda wish I'd bought the full TRD bush kit for these cars when it was still available.
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Race Idiot wrote:I mean it's not like you can buy the oem bushings anymore, or at least I don't think anyones bothered to try.


Most if not all of them are available, but not as a separate part. They come preinstalled into the arms.
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Re: How to make the car less crashy??

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I'm just thinking how much toyota will try to charge me for a new suspension arm. :lol:

I wonder if they make new uprights still, or if you can buy em.
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Re: How to make the car less crashy??

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Race Idiot wrote:I'm just thinking how much toyota will try to charge me for a new suspension arm. :lol:

I wonder if they make new uprights still, or if you can buy em.


I bet you'd get xxxx all change from a grand just for the control arms and tension rods...
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Re: How to make the car less crashy??

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The bolt for the rear arm cost me £12 from toyota. Prices for things seem to be rather mental just now. My bushes could deffo do with replacing :(
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Ryan S wrote:Yeah I mean polybushing is firmer than stock rubbers but surely better than old worn out knackered rubber bushes.


100% I wouldn't go back. It's the poly bushed engine mounts that cause rattling and drone in the cab which I personally wouldn't be interested in.
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Absolutely mental that there's no rubber options kicking about!
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Cusco make em, I think.....

https://www.cusco.co.jp/search/en/index ... y=susparts

Edit: oh wait never mind you were talking about engine mounts. I think you can still get oem toyota engine mounts anyway.
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When polybushing order the type you want. I believe 3 different hardnesses are available from various manufacturers.
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Race Idiot wrote:Cusco make em, I think.....

https://www.cusco.co.jp/search/en/index ... y=susparts

Edit: oh wait never mind you were talking about engine mounts. I think you can still get oem toyota engine mounts anyway.


No I was talking about the suspension bushes. Is this a link to them? Not sure exactly what I should be ordering.
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How to make the car less crashy??

Buy good tyres !!! And fit LSD!!
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[quote="Ryan S"]I know the car will always be harder on the roads but the crashyness is just awful

Sorry what do you mean by.. crashyness is just awful??
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[quote="Race Idiot"]It might also be the springrates on the apex springs not being matched well to the dampers.


Absolute Nonsense!! I had black bilsteins when got the car,so one of the shocks start to leak.. have to replace both front. Some parts has been discontinued by Toyota so just bought standard Toyota shocks which was paired with APEXI springs for the front only... car is on the rails. I didn't any problems..and I don't drive like granny... even in the WET!
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Re: How to make the car less crashy??

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I think you're misunderstanding what "crashiness" means in this context.
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Re: How to make the car less crashy??

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Baldurbus wrote:How to make the car less crashy??

Buy good tyres !!! And fit LSD!!


When I say "crashy" I don't mean crashing into a wall. I mean harshness on the road. Invaluable input though :lol:
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When I say "crashy" I don't mean crashing into a wall.

I don't know why you bring crashing into a wall ?? That's obvious..otherwise you wouldn't ask questions here. :-s
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Re: How to make the car less crashy??

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Ryan S wrote:
Baldurbus wrote:
I mean harshness on the road. Invaluable input though :lol:


Well..that's to do with your suspension setup,wheel size,profile of the tyre and poly bushing.
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Re: How to make the car less crashy??

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Ryan S wrote:

Might just grab a set of these with uk shocks.mr2-ben.co.uk/products/770


I wouldn't rush..They on Ebay £60 cheaper

:lol:
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Re: How to make the car less crashy??

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[quote="Ryan S"]Urrrgh. So living with the car daily again I forgot how crashy they are. Now I've had 4 sw20s. A non turbo G limited import.,A rev 2 turbo, a rev3 non turbo and a rev 3 turbo.

The rev3 UK car was the comfiest of them all.


Is it rev3 turbo or non turbo?
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Re: How to make the car less crashy??

Post by rev3gtturbo »

The oem shock and springs are ok on uk roads as a daily driver.

What does make them worse is tired shocks and mis-matched tyres on oem wheels or not enough tread left on the tyres in the rain even if they are still road legal.

If it has the original shocks, put new shocks on it.

Dont mix tyre brand/model front to rear.
Even if you put Toyo T1R on all 4 corners on stock 15 wheels it will be very driveable on uk roads.

What tyres are you using and tread depth?

Once the rears get down to 3mm it will get a lot more slidey in the wet.

Other than that, drive smoother lol
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