might sound crazy, engine out for clutch + cambelt? DIY?

[jimGTS]

i believe my clutch is on its last legs, (recent runs at drag strip), however ive had no issues with slip at all these past few weeks since i adjusted the clutch pedal even on my high boost setting. infact, it feels perfectly fine on the road.

so its not dead yet, but i also planned to fit a new cambelt/water pump, basically an overhaul over winter.

am i mad for thinking im better off dropping the engine if im going to tackle these 2 tasks which if i do, id like to do in my single garage at home.

**(both of these tasks i havent done before i might add but i do have plenty of hand tools, enthusiasm and like getting stuck in).

i dont have an engine crane or stand (yet), and i guess id be looking at some palette sliders of some kind to move the gearbox/engine from under the car, plus i imagine more stands/jacks. all of which == expensive!

given this info, am i asking for a whole heap off hassle?

am i better off just doing the cambelt/water pump etc with the engine in the car, and leaving the clutch job to a specialist if and when its starts dieing?
i like getting stuck into tasks, but given the weight, cranes etc, am i biting off more than i can chew?


on a side note,
i assume best option for belt and water pump is toyota, what about idler bearings?? oil pump worth doing?

[Draven]

I dropped my engine to do both of these things. It seemed the best way to go about it. I'd never removed an engine before. It is a simple process and does give you lots of access to do lots of other jobs on the engine that you can't do in situ.

Take your time get a decent long boom engine crane. You don't need an engine stand but get a decent creeper to lower the engine onto. I made my own by bolting 4 castors on a bit of kitchen work surface.

I went all genuine toyota for the replacement parts did this on the basis that it is such a PITA job that i didn't want to be doing it again anytime soon.

I would recommend replacing both hose from hell's at the same time..

I wouldn't bother with the oilpump that should really outlast your engine. I left mine well alone. I also checked all hoses for corrosion and crack tested them. I replaced a few of them with samco hoses and some with genuine toyota ones. Also I replaced lots of rusted bolts with ones from Toyota as well as both intake and exhaust gaskets.


All this done in a single garage.

[jimGTS]

thanks

ive already done HFH when i removed my manifold year or so ago, so saves that bother.

i will have to have a good long think on this one.

[slipping clutch]

Interesting - I would ( and have ) do the clutch with motor in situ. myself in a single garage - would I consider doing the water pump and oil pump in situ. in a single garage?. probably not as I have read to many horror stories about bolts shearing off on that side of the motor - my vote is drop it all out if you are going to do it all yourself or do the clutch at home and ask an affiliate to do the water pump etc. That said I keep upto date with your threads and know you have a better mechanical ability than me so possibly doing both with everything still hanging in the engine bay is doable for you?
So no help from me at all there then Jim

[kev8611]

I would remove the engine to do it. Especially the clutch. The gearboxes are so heavy

Gives you better access to tensioner bolts etc instead of "feeling" your way around

[ashley]

Having done it both ways, I would always drop the motor in the future- once you know what needs disconnecting it's an easy job (with the right equipment), and makes working on the engine/ clutch/ box so much easier with it on the floor in front of you

[Lefty1991]

Did both of these jobs with the engine in. Not a hard job, just takes some time and a second pair of hands to get the gearbox back on.

[jimGTS]

I was hoping for folk to convince me not to drop the engine, ha.

What specifically is required (equipment) to remove the engine on the mr2?
I've glanced at a couple of guides, it looks quite a job!!

[Peter Gidden]

I's do both job in the car. One day for each. Sorted.

[Draven]

I was hoping for folk to convince me not to drop the engine, ha.

What specifically is required (equipment) to remove the engine on the mr2?
I've glanced at a couple of guides, it looks quite a job!!

I followed this

http://turbomr2.com/MR2/HowTo/Engine_Up ... GTE-01.htm

It was pretty much spot on and it tells you all the tools you need and the process you need to follow.

[Ja99a]

Jim,
Don't drop engine for clutch / fly wheel - takes a while but you can lower the engine one side to do the clutch, give yourself plenty of time though as the angles make getting the clutch on bit more difficult. Also I made a block of wood that I bolted to a trolley jack to support the gbox, it's heavy on your own, and was the hardest part of the swap refitting it.

I did this on a steep driveway, I suggest somewhere flat, you need width rather than length (like so many things in life.....)

Removing the engine is much harder having done both several times now.

[craig]

I's do both job in the car. One day for each. Sorted.

^This.

[Wathall]

Hi I've just dropped my engine out to to some major maintance and repairs does anyone know where's the best place to get head gasket kit ,cambelt kit, all crank and cam seals and also intake manifold gasket and ball park figure what price am looking at its a Rev 2 turbo import 1993 ? Any help would be great

[JD]

Hi I've just dropped my engine out to to some major maintance and repairs does anyone know where's the best place to get head gasket kit ,cambelt kit, all crank and cam seals and also intake manifold gasket and ball park figure what price am looking at its a Rev 2 turbo import 1993 ? Any help would be great

Probably goes without saying but in case you weren't already planning to, it's a good opportunity to upgrade to a metal head gasket

[jimGTS]

i would get everything from toyota you mention.

part numbers are easy enough to find online/google, ring toyota, theyve give you prices.

[JD]

a good site for part numbers/reference: http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/

[Nails]

I did my cambelt in situ and it wasn't that bad. It was warm and I had plenty of time which makes all the difference. A bit of patience to get acess and the worst bit was getting the big bracket in and out. I got a bit confused with the tensioner as others I've seen havent required a vice to push back in.
although if I had a garage and the time I'd be tempted to pull it all so can also do engine cleaning up, clean bay, bit of painting etc.