A trip to an MR2 race garage

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A trip to an MR2 race garage

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Today I went to dad's work just to visit and see what its like

I've known his manager for years, right back from the days of karting as a younger lad and he's always looked out for me

After a long chat about all the mr2 mk1s lying around his facility and the one mk2 (which had no sunroof at all, first ive seen like that)

We got on to the topic of engines and the celica his sun races.

Here's the good bit....

He had a set of cams made for the 3sge engine to give a tremendous gain in power, turned out it took the engine from 150hp to about 230/240hp which put it 30/40hp over the categories limit...

So hes had these cams sat in his garage, boxed up, for quite some time, and hasn't really known what to do with them...

I NOW HAVE THEM :D at the price of two corbreau seats, i dont think the 2 seats quite equate to £600 so i think i got a good deal and they've only been used for one dyno run

QUESTION
Do these sound like realistic figures?
and he said i wouldn't need to change anything to my engine in order to get them to run, sound right to you guys?
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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Road_Rebel wrote:
Do these sound like realistic figures?


nope
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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No
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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rev3turbo wrote:
nope


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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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£9000 will buy you a 3S-GE F3 engine - 230BHP without restrictor.

So whilst the cams MAY be capable of producing power in that region, they'll be no good without all the rest of the parts needed to make a full race engine.
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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he be telling you little porkies LOL
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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80/90 extra hp from cams alone, i doubt that very much
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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Probably notice as much difference with these fitted and no other mods as you would with fitting an ebay uni-chip, lol.

A good start if your going to modify the engine highly ... Personally I would have kept the seats

Sorry just my 2 pence...
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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ahhh buzz kill!

The profile on them is 285
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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If it were that easy then Toyota would have been producing 500bhp MR2 Turbos as standard.
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Post by planted1 »

will buy you a 3S-GE F3 engine


yesterday,i went and looked at a bench full of F3 goodies,
sitting next to a spaceframed and kevlar mk1,
what a sight luuurrvely :thumleft:
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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It would be an obscene cam profile to get that power, but you'd also be revving mega high, need an ecu, rods/bolts (for higher revs) top fuel, etc.
On top of that, as a road car, it'd drive absolutely horribly! Like, undriveable!!!

I'd ask for seats back! Lol
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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Cams of that duration will struggle with any sort of plenum based inlet, without ITB's you'll probably make the car undriveable. You will need deep pockets to get to 230bhp N/A but its possible.

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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:£9000 will buy you a 3S-GE F3 engine - 230BHP without restrictor.

So whilst the cams MAY be capable of producing power in that region, they'll be no good without all the rest of the parts needed to make a full race engine.


That much for 230bhp?, my astra made 226bhp on jenvey TB's and MBE with an SBD setup on piper cams

Cost me like 1/4 of that though and it was a 2.0 16V too.
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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So sounds like this guy has scammed you or just doesn't know what he's talking about. Is it too late to get your seats back?
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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Go and get your seats back, tell him you changed your mind.
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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Well even if i get it to 180/190bhp i will still be happy!
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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Wasn't Xxxx was it? :eye:
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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charged wrote:Wasn't Xxxx was it? :eye:


:lol: It's does sound like something that would come out of his mouth
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Re: A trip to an MR2 race garage

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Road_Rebel wrote:Well even if i get it to 180/190bhp i will still be happy!


you wont, not with cams alone. you will still need headwork, aftermarket ecu + mapping, adj cam pulleys, exhaust manifold/exhaust, the list goes on. ££££ not worth it
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