2nd Gear crunch

[MR2 Rich]

Have got a slight issue with 2nd gear unless you push it over to the left and are a bit careful changing into 2nd it crunches. Is this likely to be gearbox or bushes or is it impossible to tell without a through inspection? All other gears are fine and if you are careful it doesnt do it and clutch isnt high on the biting point

[4ndee]

Worn syncro-mesh in the gearbox by sounds of it.

[bobhatton]

Its the linkage if you have to move the leaver over to get it to go into gear.
Get someone to move the leaver as you watch the gearbox end so you can see what it is doing

[MR2 Rich]

Thanks for the replies think it needs a more experienced eye to have a look over it just to make sure everything is ok.

[Steve-O 2007]

maybe get the gearshift bearing kit

You dont have an Ebay quick shift fitted do you? I had one and it made gears hard to get, went back to stock and it was miles better!!

[MR2 Rich]

No quick shift kit. The car is standard I don't think there is 1 modification on the car

[Mike 'MR2' McHugh]

Have you changed your gearbox oil recently/ever ?

[MR2 Rich]

No I haven't, only had the car 2 weeks gonna get some oil from opie oils on Friday so will get some gearbox oil at the same time

[MR2 Rich]

Have done gearbox oil and linkage bushes and it is still there sounds like synchromesh as I don't think there is anything else external to the gearbox that i can replace?
The bottom bush was quite warn so I'm guessing that is responsible for 2nd gear? I have put washers on to stop any movement because the 2 provided with the kit weren't enough to stop the movement is that correct or should there only be 1 washer either side of the bush and some movement?

[Peter Gidden]

The washers only take up slack along the axis of the bush, so in real terms have no effect on the movement in the direction that the cable pulls/pushes.

Sounds like synchro is goosed.

[alanmr2turbo]

is yours a REV1 as REV2+ had ungraded 2nd gear synchro's put in

[MR2 Rich]

Rev2 K reg August 92.

Would it show if i double clutched?

[Peter Gidden]

is yours a REV1 as REV2+ had ungraded 2nd gear synchro's put in

And...?

[MR2 Rich]

It isn't bad at all just have to be careful going into 2nd new oil and bushes have helped a lot. Other than gearbox out and a rebuild there isn't anything else to do is there?

[Peter Gidden]

Other than gearbox out and a rebuild there isn't anything else to do is there?

Or replacement of gearbox, obviously.

[MR2 Rich]

Thanks Peter for clarifying that

Did you get my PM about wheel alignment?

[Peter Gidden]

Did you get my PM about wheel alignment?

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[MR2 Rich]

What's the rough labour cost for putting in a second hand gearbox?

[Peter Gidden]

What's the rough labour cost for putting in a second hand gearbox?

We charge 5 hours. Exactly.

Could give you a rough cost but thought an exact cost would be more useful.

[MR2 Rich]

Thanks Peter when I come for the wheel alignment will get you to give me your opinion on my car