[Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

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[Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

Post by dellams »

Hi Guys,

Just wanted to check what the following error code is:

1 flash, pause, 4 flashes?

Recently the car started cutting out/stalling in neutral say when you get to a set of lights, you then restart it and its fine.

Then it started having trouble re-starting.

Finally starting kangarooing and started juddering really badly in 1st and 2nd, had to keep the revs really low in 3rd and just about managed to limp home! :(

It has been overfueling since been saving to get it mapped but I heard over-fueling is better than under fueing since it helps protect the engine more?

We know the engine is a little bit dodgey and may be on its way out eventually but has been pulling fine and not lost any power or anything recently.

Also, all of the ignition components (coil, dizzy cap, rotar arms, leads and plugs) have been recently replaced except the amplifier. It wouldnt be the amplifier would it? Since that would either just work or not work?

Any help would be really appreciated since I use my car for every day use and need it to get to work.

Cheers.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

Post by Yas »

Error code 14 Ignition indicator.

Too much overfuelling can cause borewash, not good!

Recheck the ignition components to make sure all is well, you can search for error 14 on here and see what others have experienced.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

Post by dellams »

Ok thanks mate, yeah thats what I found too.

Could it be amplifier/ignitor then since rest of components have been replaced?

Unless it could be plugs fouling up again? They use to on grade 7's but changed them down to grade 6's and have been fine for ages with those.

Whats borewash then? Can it cause any damage? Its been overfueling for quite a while now... :(

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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

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The only parts I havent replaced in the ignition system is the dizzy itself (already done the cap) and the ignitor.

Which is it more likely to be?

I was thinking maybe dizzy since I would have thought if it was the ignitor it would either work or not work, just like when my coil failed.

Unless the ignitor could just be firing intermittently?

Or may also be a sensor. Is this any way of me tracking down where the problem is?

Also, how much am I looking at for a new ignitor and how much for a new dizzy?

I take it that its better to buy new genuine toyota rather than 2nd hand and blueprint? Ive had problems before with a blueprint coil that failed after only a couple of weeks! :(

Cheers.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

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Hi Guys,

After being fine again for about a week (after resetting the ecu). It started cutting out again when putting it into neutral at say the lights or something.

So needed to start it again, after a while of this the ecu light flashed and then finally it went into safe mode again so started kangarooing violently again till I reset the ecu.

The error code was 14 again.

So you guys still think its likely to be ignitor over sensor or anything else?

Cheers.
David.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

Post by toxo »

I'd check your dizzy wiring. I'm sure someone else on here has had that problem recently, would be worth doing a search!
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

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Oh right ok, I can check that. Anything in partciular I am looking for?

What makes you thing it could be the dizzy (wiring) ?

Cheers. :thumleft:
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

Post by toxo »

http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=128685

Not the same problem I know but the distributor functions as a cam position sensor to tell the ignitor when to fire... and you've replaced everything else!
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

Post by nigel_bytes »

Got the very same problem myself on my NA
The coil after a while gets warm and shorts out giving you code 14, When it happens you will see the dash gauges etc lose power to them so obviously somethigs shorting, waiting for a new coil to arrive to confirm now,
Look at this picture and you can see the crack in the coil (a little rust too)
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

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Yeah I noticed that, sometimes the temp gauge etc started going down then back up again.

Yeah so could be something shorting, any idea how I can narrow it down?

I at least know its not the coil since I replaced that about a month ago with a genuine toyota one, before that I replaced it with a blue print but that failed only after two weeks!

Could it be a sensor on its way out?

Cheers. :thumleft:
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

Post by nigel_bytes »

Fitted new coil monday and all appears to be well :)
After a bit of searching i found an article about the coil-igniter earthing bracket making poor contact with the chassis earth and this can cause the symptoms i had been getting.

Before fitting the coil i gave the bracket, igniter a good clean and i added an extra earth wire to the coil-igniter bracket and then to chassis earth..

Hopefully its sorted now (famous last words) :(

Just to add, Have a look around the coil when its dark with engine running and see if you can spot any sparks trying to find earth (after removing fusebox above coil) try spraying a little water on the coil king lead etc.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] One Flash, Four flash error code means?

Post by dellams »

Glad you managed to get yours sorted mate.

Yeah it could be the earth not making good contact, so I know what im looking for, which wires the earth?
My ignitor does look really worn and corroded from a lot of rain and bad weather, etc.

At least the coil is all shiney and new though! :)

Cheers.
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