[Mk2] [Turbo] !!! REV2 Turbo Mappable ECU !!!

[PW@Woodsport]

That's right Jeremy, blame me for you not being able to deliver, this thread has absolutely nothing to do with me and my helping you to get a V6 version off the ground and guess what? You let everyone down again.

Remember...

I took time to send you a free V6 ECU
I arranged a funding thread FOR YOU!
I spent time testing your POS cable, the pins broke (it went in the bin because of your attitude) so sue me.

I was one of the ones that ACTUALLY tried to help you, not just sit on my ar$e infront of a keyboard as you put it, yet somehow you seem to be blaming me for your failure to deliver?

There's no helping some people, fund your own projects Jeremy, the world owes you nothing.

[JMR_AW11]

That's right Jeremy, blame me for you not being able to deliver, this thread has absolutely nothing to do with me and my helping you to get a V6 version off the ground and guess what? You let everyone down again.

Remember...

I took time to send you a free V6 ECU
I arranged a funding thread FOR YOU!
I spent time testing your POS cable, the pins broke (it went in the bin because of your attitude) so sue me.

I was one of the ones that ACTUALLY tried to help you, not just sit on my ar$e infront of a keyboard as you put it, yet somehow you seem to be blaming me for your failure to deliver?

There's no helping some people, fund your own projects Jeremy, the world owes you nothing.

I took time to send you a free V6 ECU
To suit your own agenda. I didn't ask you to send me an ECU. You wanted me to look at V6 ECUs instead of 3SGTE.

I arranged a funding thread FOR YOU!
Nobody sent me any money

I spent time testing your POS cable
I don't believe you. After months of excuses I simply gave up asking you to try it.

There's no helping some people, fund your own projects Jeremy, the world owes you nothing.

and I owe the MR2 world nothing either.

I don't even own a 3SGTE or V6 powered mk2 MR2 so this project relied on help from others to allow me access to cars for testing.

The only people on this forum to provide REAL PHYSICAL HELP (more than just fake keyboard help and fake keyboard money) were Andy and Tom and also Ryan and Surrey Rolling Road.

[PW@Woodsport]

I took time to send you a free V6 ECU
To suit your own agenda. I didn't ask you to send me an ECU. You wanted me to look at V6 ECUs instead of 3SGTE.

What the hell are you talking about? I stood to gain nothing from your venture apart from being able to offer people more options, financially it was all yours.

I arranged a funding thread FOR YOU!
Nobody sent me any money

When did i say they did??? I said i ARRANGED a funding thread and 20-30 people committed themselves to helping you...

I spent time testing your POS cable
I don't believe you. After months of excuses I simply gave up asking you to try it.

Whatever! I have a witness that saw what happened, i couldn't care less, at least i tried to HELP YOU!

Wish i'd never agreed to send you anything or help you at all, that way i would just be one of the "armchair" people you talk about in this thread.

Go forth and multiply.

[JMR_AW11]

and guess what? You let everyone down again

Who is everyone?

I delivered working 3SGTE ECUs to IMOC members! I also had people change their mind when it came to paying for an ECU.

Do I have to make and sell a certain amount?

Do you expect to be able to buy these ECUs as easily as a new exhaust? I got hold of some rev2 ECUs and modded them up and sold them. There's a limit to how many 3SGTE ECUs I can get hold of to modify.

I still have ECUs here but as I said earlier I don't want to sell any more on here after the last experience where the ECU got dismantled and ripped apart for suspicious reasons.

Do you have any idea how upset I was to see what was done to the last ECU I sold to an IMOCer? Days of work turned to sh!t because someone had other motives for buying the ECU from me.
I was the one let down... That ECU was built up and sold with new code to allow access to more maps etc. I spent ages writing the mapping GUI for it as well.

All they had to do was test it for me. Instead they took it apart to see what chips I had used.

I can't test the ECUs. I can't test the datalogger cables either. I don't have a rev2 turbo MR2 remember?

[PW@Woodsport]

Who is everyone?

Duh, that would be the dozens of people waiting years on this thread for a product maybe?

I also had people change their mind when it came to paying for an ECU.

Boo hoo, welcome to the world of business, not my problem.

Do I have to make and sell a certain amount?

Usually everyone that registers on a group buy expects a product, you are a class act.

Do you expect to be able to buy these ECUs as easily as a new exhaust? I got hold of some rev2 ECUs and modded them up and sold them. There's a limit to how many 3SGTE ECUs I can get hold of to modify.

Don't promise anyone anything then, you didn't release this info 25 pages ago.

Do you have any idea how upset I was to see what was done to the last ECU I sold to an IMOCer? Days of work turned to sh!t because someone had other motives for buying the ECU from me.

Do you know how many products and conversions i've come up with only for someone else to copy it and pen it as their own??? That's life! You have no patent on anything, and that too is nothing to do with me.

Blame me all you want, i have had no part in this rev1/2 ECU, i tried to help you get YOUR v6 version off the ground and i merely stated on page 8 many months ago that you would let people down, and you have, the proof is there.

Edit: Sorry it's not months ago, it's YEARS!

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:48 am Post subject:
for what its worth jeremys done the same thing over on twobrutal,developed a v6 programmable ecu,tested it,promised us cheap units and then disappeared off the planet....we even set up a funding thread were some 25 members were willing to donate money into a pot for jeremy to get his initial prototypes off the ground.

Now the only person that stood to gain financially was jeremy so we didnt need to do that,we even had members willing to donate that didnt even have v6's!

Come on jeremy,tell us all whats happened? you have had the full support from two clubs on this and we feel let down.

[JMR_AW11]

Usually everyone that registers on a group buy expects a product, you are a class act.

Paul
Read this thread again.

I didn't start the thread and I didn't organise any group buys and no one sent me any money.

Please stop posting up false information.

you are a class act

and you are ignorant.


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[PW@Woodsport]

hmmm, so this whole thread (and the one on TB) was one big ego massage was it?

Look what i can do... but i won't ever be offering it as a product for everyone that shows interest, exactly the same thing you did on Twobrutal.

I'm ignorant? so what does that make the people that DIDN'T try and help you?

[JMR_AW11]

Edit: Sorry it's not months ago, it's YEARS!

I believe there is a whole team of people reversing the Supra ECUs in the UK and USA.

A whole frikken team of them and they started over two years ago and guess what?

They haven't delivered a solution yet.

So why don't you go and criticise them as well you ignorant person.

Look! There's a thread on the web!

It's two years old!

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showth ... sis/page23

[PW@Woodsport]

Name calling now eh? Your talents know no bounds.

I didn't say it would take you years to build, i said 3 years ago you would let people down like you did on TB, and you did.

[JMR_AW11]

Name calling now eh? Your talents know no bounds.

Go and criticise the team of people who haven't delivered any tunable ECUs to Supra owners for over two years.

I've put the link up for you above.

As far as I know they have continual access to cars for testing.

I only ever had access to cars on three occasions (three afternoons)

however, I have edited my name calling to 'ignorant person' as I admit my initial comment was perhaps a bit rude and I apologise.

[PW@Woodsport]

Still calling me ignorant though ay? Thanks Jeremy, that's gratitude after everything i did to help you, no matter what you say.

Best of luck with anything you decide to tease people with in future, i certainly won't be helping you.

[JMR_AW11]

Still calling me ignorant though ay? Thanks Jeremy, that's gratitude after everything i did to help you, no matter what you say.

Best of luck with anything you decide to tease people with in future, i certainly won't be helping you.

You earned the ignorant label a long time ago.

Go and criticise the supra ECU team for failing to deliver anything

here's the link to the 2 year old ECU thread that looks remarkably similar to this one.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showth ... y-Analysis

BTW I'm not criticising their efforts at all. I understand how hard it is to have a full time job and still find time to do electronics projects in free time.

But I think maybe you should really wade in and tell them the real score.

Tell them how they have let everyone down over the last two years...

[PW@Woodsport]

It's nearly 3 years, and they didn't come on Twobrutal and Imoc promising the earth.

[JMR_AW11]

It's nearly 3 years, and they didn't come on Twobrutal and Imoc promising the earth.

Define 'promised the earth' or show me where it says I 'promised the earth'.

[toyokid]

Now now boys and girls.....
he who hath the last word does not necessarily win?

[JMR_AW11]

Now now boys and girls.....
he who hath the last word does not necessarily win?

Yes but Paul seems to think I set up some kind of 'group buy' deal and then failed to deliver.

Before I knew this thread existed there was already a growing list of people spontaneously signing up to what Paul laughingly refers to as a 'group buy'

I would suggest that it wasn't a 'group buy' because:

There was no product back then.
There was no price.
There was no delivery date.
I didn't offer a group buy deal.

The list of names appeared before I even knew about this thread.

Usually everyone that registers on a group buy expects a product, you are a class act.

I don't think Paul even knows what 'group buy' means

[toyokid]

Now now Jeremy
I am sorry that you have hurt pride
but Paul has far more to lose insofar he has commercial interests?

Things didn't work out the way they may have done, but thats life?

As you get a little older you may become a little bit more pragmatic?

I have screwed up more than most!

Stephen

[JMR_AW11]

Now now Jeremy
I am sorry that you have hurt pride
but Paul has far more to lose insofar he has commercial interests?
Things didn't work out the way they may have done, but thats life?

As you get a little older you may become a little bit more pragmatic?

I have screwed up more than most!

Stephen

Not true. I think Paul and I can at least agree that he doesn't have far more to lose due to commercial interests etc.

I don't think that is the issue at all

What people don't understand is that this isn't just something made from a few chips bought from Maplin etc.

Even though the hardware was designed a long time ago there is a lot more to develop in terms of software and firmware etc.

There is VHDL code in the main CPLD (currently at BETA)
A bootloader in the flash memory (currently at BETA)
Modified Toyota code to allow remapping (several versions all currently at BETA)

Firmware in the interface chip between the main part of the ECU and the PC. (currently at BETA)

Also all the various PC software and all of this is at BETA.

The idea was to produce ever better BETA versions of the above code and produce an ECU that could be mapped by any competent tuner.

The last BETA version that went out allowed loads more functions and it took me ages to write all the code. However, the person I sold it to didn't ever test it for me and took the ECU apart instead

This doc explains the level of adjustability of the BETA code sent out with the last ECU to an IMOC member.

http://www.jmrhzu.btinternet.co.uk/Rev2 ... _help4.doc

[Dale_V]

Any reason you dont name the IMOC member that tried to reverse engineer the ECU?

[JMR_AW11]

Any reason you dont name the IMOC member that tried to reverse engineer the ECU?

I don't think it would be wise.

I held off even mentioning it on here when it happened about a year ago.

I still get angry just looking at the images of the butchered ECU.
When they fitted the messof blue wires and tried to screw the ECU back together it bulged the PCBs inside the ECU and stresssed all the SMD components.

Also they damaged the plated via holes on the PCB and also there were short circuits and dead components.

I offered the person £200 scrap for the ECU even though it was totally ruined and worthless.

I did this to prevent anyone seeing it.

But for some reason the person insisted on having it back even though I told them it was dead. So I no longer have it.

I had some custom ribbon cables designed in the Far East that connect the two boards together.

These are rated to high temperature and they are produced to my drawing.

I assume the person cut through these to get the boards apart and then tried to bodge it back to gether with the mess of blue wires.

The adaptor board is supposed to look like this with neat ribbon cables







It came back looking like this.