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EarL wrote:Leeroy wrote:I'd buy a F355 just because its pure sex on legs!
Again, purely subjective mate.
I personally can't stand them.
Don't tell me you've all got your time of the month today?* Stands back to watch it kick off* 
Leeroy wrote:matt_mr2t wrote:I've realised over the last year that it's not just how fast these Supercars go but how safely and effortlessly they can do it.
But isn't that why we
These cars are the whole package, sorry but it's unarguable!! MR2s are not the whole package even when extensively modified as there are always compromises or elements of unreliability, or the expense of just a comfortable car to drive to the shops. 
I've driven a few now, and there is no doubt in my mind my next car is a Porsche!tonigmr2 wrote:Leeroy wrote:matt_mr2t wrote:I've realised over the last year that it's not just how fast these Supercars go but how safely and effortlessly they can do it.
But isn't that why we
Having test driven a couple of Porsche's now Matt has hit the proverbial nail on the head.
To say they are not drivers cars is just shocking!
T
Slapping a set of silly low and hard coilovers on an MR2 does not necessarily equal a good road car - god knows why people do it! The 911 may not be as fast as a say a completely track prepped MR2, but the MR2 will be making the compromise, as it'll bea pig to drive on the road. The point earlier about modifications not buying class is well made. '2 - unless somebody would swap for a flat nose 1980 911 turbo - preferably in martini racing colours, and obviously with just the four forward gears. To me, all 911's from the 964 onwards have lost their way (even if they are faster, and handle better).RichardPON wrote:To state that an MR2 for example is a better car than a 911 because you dislike the 911 is hideously blinkered.
If you're suggesting I said this then please read my posts again. I would love to own a 911 one day. ](./images/smilies/eusa_wall.gif "Brick wall"){kind=small}
I even despised the way Boxsters look...until I got a drive in a 3.2S. I had to physically restrain myself from taking out a large loan to buy it, LOL. (and it wasn't even yellow, it was black!! 
) If you don't like it then you've got no soul. But you have got the full story. 
splash2 wrote:honestly, i'd stick with my
.. you say the new porsches are faster and handle better, so what way have they lost exactly? Can't be the ultimate driving machine as that's more evident than ever :SRichardPON wrote:tonigmr2 wrote:Leeroy wrote:
But isn't that why we
Having test driven a couple of Porsche's now Matt has hit the proverbial nail on the head.
To say they are not drivers cars is just shocking!
T
Asbsolute nail on the head there too.
Consider also that there is a HUGE difference in what makes a fast ROAD car and a fast TRACK car.
The beauty is that even your basic 911 will be fast in all situations, rewarding, and comes with a LOT more class.
To state that an MR2 for example is a better car than a 911 because you dislike the 911 is hideously blinkered.
I think some people are stuck in a Jap trance. I love my MR2 (damn sexy thing) but recognize also that there are other great cars out there. I respect all Performance cars, be they Jap turbo nutter mobiles, German precision weapons or Italian Supercars.tonigmr2 wrote:Go testdrive if you can, I heartily recommend it.
You won't like it even though it's a stunning car 
- had heard the Cayman was so much better they had to not put an LSD in it so it didn't compete!!(wondering if this should go in Off Topic now because we're talking porsches?)tonigmr2 wrote:Interesting
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After that it felt a little hollow 
I loved the balance, the turn in, the brakes, the instant NA power and most of all the comfort - I felt I could drive to the South of France in one and arrive refreshed. Really did open my eyes!? From the 964 on, the classic 911 shape is no more. Even the 935 had the basic shape of a real 911, the extra wide arches, flat nose etc. somehow added to the cars 911-ness. From the 964 onwards, the true 911 shape is being lost . A turbocharged air cooled 6 cylinder engine has a voice all of it's own. "at least i don't have to worry about water leaks" - water cooling ! prof. porsche wouldn't of stood for it ! the cars are produced in higher numbers now, and are much more common.! but the whole package just doesn't have the same kudos it used to (at least in my eyes).RichardPON wrote:The point earlier about modifications not buying class is well made.
.. when you turn up outside the Ritz in your car, one car will get you through the door, the other will get you turned away."But it's beaten a 911 off the lights" will not make a difference... you end up with the 225mph RUF RT12. Which is still a daily drivable car.
.. (I was doing about 125mph round a corner at the time).tonigmr2 wrote:A RUF porsche.
(driving about side by side - with a camera man hanging out an RS4 taking pics).Clicky For two pics of them .. I've a LOAD more, just not online. 
greeny wrote:Porsche carrera gt!!
.. I never saw them though Leeroy wrote:RichardPON wrote:To state that an MR2 for example is a better car than a 911 because you dislike the 911 is hideously blinkered.
Who said this?
- apolgies if it read that way. Was just a general observation.RichardPON wrote:Leeroy wrote:RichardPON wrote:To state that an MR2 for example is a better car than a 911 because you dislike the 911 is hideously blinkered.
Who said this?
That wasn't directed at you