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Magic Beans wrote:Nice idea, sir. When finished it will look spot on and is a good alternative to the other solutions we've seen 100's of times :thumleft:


Thank you Phil I'll try my best to get the fit right .. As you know it's good to be original in your thinking
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I've never been a fan of the spoilerless look, personally. A little something on the boot lid for me really balances out the aesthetics.

The rev5 (Combat) spoiler is perfect on an MR2, again in my opinion, especially with aftermarket wheels like TE37s.
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HighwayStar wrote:Nice to see originality and a lot of thought and effort going in to it but to me the car looks better without.
It's true spoilerless 2's can look a little 'thin' at the back end but good spats to make the car look deeper are a better cure than another spoiler... IMO.
Still I'm impressed by the idea and look forward to seeing the end result. It looks a little like the smaller Toms rear spoiler. I have one in the shed but in the end chose not to fit until I'm having other work done when I can get it modded (narrowed and heightened then blended to the boot lid) to look like the mad psi.

R.

PS. That secures just by a tiny clamp like fixing at either end that screws up to the bottom of the boot lid.


Toms blended in sounds very tasteful, look forward to the result as and when it's done. Thanks for the tip on the clamps :thumleft:
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This is a good idea in theory, just looking at the rear picture and the side picture you took and it does flow with the shape of the car.. But when I saw the picture taken from above it put me off. It might be because it is not fixed yet and the tape is still there, so you may change my opinion when you get it sitting flush!

But it just looks a little narrow in width to me and I`m not sure about the overhang/length on the edges of the boot. Also are you painting it? Was it raining when you took the picture? Just the rain on it makes it look `different` to the rest of the car, like maybe you could tell it does not belong. Anyway just another opinion on it, but I think you have the right idea not going drilling holes for it just yet, lets see it fixed on properly then give us more pics.
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D4N_V_U wrote:This is a good idea in theory, just looking at the rear picture and the side picture you took and it does flow with the shape of the car.. But when I saw the picture taken from above it put me off. It might be because it is not fixed yet and the tape is still there, so you may change my opinion when you get it sitting flush!

But it just looks a little narrow in width to me and I`m not sure about the overhang/length on the edges of the boot. Also are you painting it? Was it raining when you took the picture? Just the rain on it makes it look `different` to the rest of the car, like maybe you could tell it does not belong. Anyway just another opinion on it, but I think you have the right idea not going drilling holes for it just yet, lets see it fixed on properly then give us more pics.


hi and thanks for your input - to address the points you raised, the 'from above' photo was actually of the spoiler in an alternative placement which I did not like - sorry if I haven't included an above picture of the spoiler in the position I eventually chose. In the position I opted for it does naturally sit flush without any manipulation.

Also in the correct position the front edge follows the curvature of the boot almost perfectly; bends either end forwards by a few degrees and its bang on.

With the rain spots, tape and being in what I considered the wrong position in the 'from above' shot it does look out of place of course, plus I haven't cleaned the spoiler yet so its a little dirty.

I won't be painting it as I prefer it black - it's a softish rubber ( unsure whether it could be painted at all with a flexible coating perhaps or 'plasti kit' which I believe is like a vinyl wrap but spray on )

Anyway, I'm just in town collecting the mounting hardware I think I'll need. Will try to have a crack at fitting this afternoon - wish me luck !!
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hi and thanks for your input - to address the points you raised, the 'from above' photo was actually of the spoiler in an alternative placement which I did not like - sorry if I haven't included an above picture of the spoiler in the position I eventually chose. In the position I opted for it does naturally sit flush without any manipulation.


Ah I see. Just read the previous page properly and you did mention this and the rain! I saw the picture and thought that is where it will sit permanently. Well good luck with it keep us posted. :thumleft:
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So finally I had a crack at it this afternoon, took a few hours with being careful to align everything.

There are always going to be some issues when trying something like this, not like it's OEM fitment, going as well as it could do though, apart from my scratching paintwork ( underneath where spoiler is mounted, but still annoying as it could have been avoided

not yet fixed properly with brackets either side, just stuck on with double sided tape for now. won't use it on road until it's right.

Don't have much time tonight to post images, but thought you'd appreciate a preview .. daylight fading as I took these so quality not brilliant

top view

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rear 3/4

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rear

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from lower angle

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As I said not perfect but with a little perseverance hopefully it will turn out right.

Any thoughts guys ?
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It looks a lot better where you have got it placed now.
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Hoped to mount either side with metal brackets but having issues with screws on brackets butting into rear wing corners. Even pop rivets would create a contact problem since the spoiler fits so snugly.

So I'm left with a choice of drilling holes in boot and use the screw mountings already embedded in spoiler or pulling it back off, prep the surface very carefully and rely on 3M double sided tape to hold it on. For now its just positioned with cheap d/sided tape which I'd never trust.

Apparently if you wash the boot and spoiler with something like fairy liquid to strip any wax and dirt, wipe with alcohol, use a tape 'adhesion primer' (whatever that is) and be careful to apply pressure for long enough when sticking it should be solid enough.

Will also get some better pictures some time soon
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If you can only stick with tape personally I`d ditch the idea, imagine it giving up and flinging off down the motorway. If you start drilling holes, you would be better off picking up a second hand rev1 or rev3 spoiler. Sure you could find one cheap. I had a rev1 3 piece spoiler in black laying around for months you could have had it for free but I ended up binning it to get it out the way. Unless of course the love for the Saab is too much! :D
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Have you thought about tiger seal? Personally I would want the security of it being screwed on as well however a chap at work has a high rise wrc copy spoiler on his bug eye that was stuck on with tiger seal three years ago and its still on now apparently preparation was the key - again I must stress that If it were mine I would personally prefer it to be screwed as well.
Got to say though it does look cracking - well done for thinking outside the box.
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slipping clutch wrote:Have you thought about tiger seal? Personally I would want the security of it being screwed on as well however a chap at work has a high rise wrc copy spoiler on his bug eye that was stuck on with tiger seal three years ago and its still on now apparently preparation was the key - again I must stress that If it were mine I would personally prefer it to be screwed as well.
Got to say though it does look cracking - well done for thinking outside the box.



i was just about to suggest a product called CT-1. the stuff is insane, the company who make it have the contract on the sealife centre in queensferry (scotland) for sealing their huge tanks etc, it cures even when it's wet (hence getting the contract) and it has the strongest bond you'll ever see in your life.
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sheppy wrote:
slipping clutch wrote:Have you thought about tiger seal? Personally I would want the security of it being screwed on as well however a chap at work has a high rise wrc copy spoiler on his bug eye that was stuck on with tiger seal three years ago and its still on now apparently preparation was the key - again I must stress that If it were mine I would personally prefer it to be screwed as well.
Got to say though it does look cracking - well done for thinking outside the box.



i was just about to suggest a product called CT-1. the stuff is insane, the company who make it have the contract on the sealife centre in queensferry (scotland) for sealing their huge tanks etc, it cures even when it's wet (hence getting the contract) and it has the strongest bond you'll ever see in your life.



Hey guys thanks for your help, really useful :thumleft:

Decided I really like the look of the Saab spoiler and realise now that I have to take a leap of faith and go ahead with doing the job right - so on your advice Tigerseal is now on its way from ebay . Also going to bite the bullet and drill the boot in a few places to screw down using mounting points embedded in spoiler, so no chance of it coming loose or falling off.

Yes I am ruining a clean hole free boot lid, but I think the final result will be worth it.

I want the rear end to look unique ; with the combo of the Saab spoiler and the Phoenix Power exhaust and perhaps a few more touches I'm hoping to achieve that.
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Good deal, I'm pleased your going for it and I am even more pleased about your decision to bolt it on as well as bonding it. Look forward to seeing the finished result :thumleft:
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Always good to be different bud.

Looks cracking! 8)
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Looks really good :thumleft: only comment would be that the upper rear edge of the wing looks slightly curved from the rear view.
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Nic wrote:Looks really good :thumleft: only comment would be that the upper rear edge of the wing looks slightly curved from the rear view.


You're right it is, caused by having to bend the front corners slightly forwards to match bootlid curve line.

Not really what I wanted but I can live with it, I might still play around with position slightly before fixing
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Nic wrote:Looks really good :thumleft: only comment would be that the upper rear edge of the wing looks slightly curved from the rear view.


You're right it is, caused by having to bend the front corners slightly forwards to match bootlid curve line.

Not really what I wanted but I can live with it, I might still play around with position slightly before fixing


See what you mean, would heating the wing help shape it before bolting it in place?
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Nic wrote:
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Nic wrote:Looks really good :thumleft: only comment would be that the upper rear edge of the wing looks slightly curved from the rear view.


You're right it is, caused by having to bend the front corners slightly forwards to match bootlid curve line.

Not really what I wanted but I can live with it, I might still play around with position slightly before fixing


See what you mean, would heating the wing help shape it before bolting it in place?


Might do or may be a couple of screw mounts I could use. Will find out soon ..
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Ok latest development . As Nic pointed out the spoiler curves up at the top corners, turns out the outer sides drop too deep as they go towards the back so they butt into the rear wing corners, raising the spoiler up at either corner.

One solution would be to cut some rubber off the base of the spoiler sides to make it sit flush - however even though it only needs about 5 mm chopped off it would be hard to judge the cut to match the wing corner profile.

So ... I have a cunning plan to put a flat strip of rubber under the rear of the spoiler where the rear edge meets the back of the boot lid . This will raise the whole spoiler back end by the required height, raising the offending back spoiler corners to clear the wing corners.

Sorry about the description being confusing , will update with photos of process and how adding the spacer strip changes things.

If anyone has any bright ideas feel welcome to contribute.
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