The journey of one man and his Mule(s)

[Magic Beans]

Noted, thanks

I'll stick it on the list of things to do this week.

So I'm guessing the MoTeC can use the ABS as part of a TC system then?

Why am I starting to get the feeling that I'll end this year with a build thread which reads "My 500bhp wide-arch...." and pockets lighter than they were going to be

[ashley]

LOL!!

I know the feeling, 400hp is fun but 500, 600...where will it end?! I keep thinking GTX3576/82 or maybe an HTA 3582r

Yes- MoTeC will do traction control for you, but (as is the case for most things with MoTeC) you'll have to pay extra for the upgrade. Syvecs maybe a good call if you're planning to go down that route- it's an all in one package...I only went MoTeC cos I was offered some 2nd hand bargains.

[Magic Beans]

It gets to the point where there's no real benefit for road car. I remember reading Ryan's comments about how to overtake he basically had to get up a head of steam to start the pass and be basically slowing down as he went past. You have track and road in mind don't you, so you'll get more benefit from the GT(X)35.

I follow 2Bar of Facebook and look at some of Ryan's work with the Syvecs. The rolling boost builder looks like something I'd be interested in. Although I guess the MoTeC does the same? It has become apparent that my PFC Pro is a bit of a dinosaur

[ashley]

Yeah I agree- I've read Ryan's comments a few hundred times

He needs some wider rear wheels, but you're point is valid- on the road it gets to a point where you can't really "drive" the car on boost, you wait for a nice straight then boot it and try to hold the wheel spin

Not sure how the rolling boost build works tbh...something I've been considering is converting to drive by wire, there's so much potential for anti lag by tuning throttle position to help build boost. Seems to be a straight forwards conversion as well, I'm surprised not to have seen it on an MR2 (although I'm sure it will have been done before).

On an aside- looks like we're not far off the first prototypes for our new rose jointed suspension, just waiting for a quote and time frame from the fabricator

[Magic Beans]

The people who would have used that on a '2 have moved on to other cars I guess. There's a big market for it in GTRs and Supras, as that's where the big money is, owner wise. I'm sure there's a '2 out there with it, it's just not been publicised as much.

Very interested to see hear more about the suspension. Will it be an existing damper etc for a current manufacturer with a rose joint, or totally new throughout?

[ashley]

Yeah- you're probably right, generally if you think of something on these cars someone, somewhere has done it before!

The suspension will be a straight swap for the existing setup, but no more rubber bushes, and a bit lighter.

Then I'd like to look at introducing more adjustment options as standard.

As soon as I've got a set made I'll show you some pic's

[Magic Beans]

Please do

[Magic Beans]

Managed to get a run at trying to fit the arch liners, all the while knowing such a simple job would become a massive PITA

The driver's side liner is in, however there's a tiny little gap between where it ends and the body starts







The above can be resolved either through custom pieces or by fabricating bridging strips to go in between, however I think the larger issue is that I still think the tyre outer will rub on the liner when it's dropped down. Not done it yet but it would seem that's the case



I guess a solution might be to trim it back further up and make pieces which fit with the contour of the arch and clear the tyre.

There's also work to be done where the lower bumper meets too.



There's also the small issue of the fact I appear to have two driver's side liners Tools downed for the night

Hopefully I'll have chance to get the new tyres fitted in the next couple of days. It's all painfully slow right now, as I've changed job roles and it's a sea of projects for me to run at the moment

[ashley]

Looking at that I reckon your best bet is to make up some liners from scratch mate, maybe out of ali? Or even thin fiber glass?

Might be worth having a chat with Paul Woods, I'm pretty sure he's got custom liners nailed- might give you some tips/ ideas

[Magic Beans]

I think you're right.

I'll wait until the tyres are on so I can see the clearances etc, then I'll probably be giving Mr Woods a call. Never really done any sheet metal work before but I would also like to fabricate a flat undertray for the bumper.

Maybe a bit more research is required, as if it's going to be custom there might be ways to improve on the original designs and improve airflow

[stephano]

Think I better do something like this!
Got no liners at all and I'm starting to pay for it.
Very interested to see how you do it.

[bobhatton]

Think I better do something like this!
Got no liners at all and I'm starting to pay for it.
Very interested to see how you do it.

I have been telling you all along to put the under panels and wheel liners back in.

[synXero]

There's also the small issue of the fact I appear to have two driver's side liners Tools downed for the night

This might be retarded... But could you reverse the bend? i.e. turn it from ) to (

I don't know if the surfaces are different on either side.

[Magic Beans]

There's also the small issue of the fact I appear to have two driver's side liners Tools downed for the night

This might be retarded... But could you reverse the bend? i.e. turn it from ) to (

I don't know if the surfaces are different on either side.

I wish it was that easy but it wouldn't work

I think I'll end up creating two pieces for each wheel arch, one at the front (wheel meets bumper) and one at the back (wheel meets the skirts). They'll both be tapered up to a point in the top of the centre of the arch, that way they will isolate the arches in the same way the stock liners would but won't foul the wheels when they're fitted and the car's back on the ground. I can't think of a reason why I would need a liner which goes all the way over the top of the arch, other than when Toyota made them it's easier to create a single piece

I think the best solution for securing them to the top of the arch would be to use rivets, as there's a couple of perfect mounting points.

Before I do that I guess i need to create a template for the front undertray, as that will pull in the bumper sides, which currently flare out slightly. Perhaps clear plastic sheeting would work well to template with, as I'd at least be able to see mounting points etc Suggestions welcomed though

[vinp182]

I just spent most of my day at work reading throught his thread

Really good read and the car is stunning mate, great work

[Magic Beans]

Thanks

That must have been an epic read I hope it was worth it

[vinp182]

It was pretty epic lol skipped through most of the posts by other people and just read the big updates with piccys

Really enjoyed it, there aren't many project threads alive at the mo so it's good to see that there are still some enthusiasts amongst us

[Magic Beans]

Haha, I do exactly the same thing. My eyes get bored with words, hence why I'm a photo whore

There's plenty of epic threads on the go at the moment, as we're finally getting to the end of the winter lull

[Magic Beans]

I managed to snatch some time and finally get the new tyres fitted

After the old tyres were removed I took some time to inspect the wear on them and I have to admit I was a little OTT in my description of the wear severity The fact they were originally fitted in that way still stands as a big no no though









Seems like an awful waste to have to swap them, as there's no more than 1mm of overall wear in other areas Possibly they'd serve as rears for someone

Anywho, onwards and upwards.

New ones are on but the rims need a damn good clean! Carbotechs are so dusty it's insane





They're a bit of a stretch but it's a compromise I had to make. Just need to keep well away from kerbs



They came up well after a damn good scrub though





Need to find time to tidy up the calipers, then I can test fit and see how they work with the liners. Although no matter what I'll be fabricating some custom pieces. It's too much of a bodge otherwise and I'm not a fan of bodges..

[craig]

Love those wheels Phil, very nice indeed!

I'll have carbotechs on for Lemans so you can clean my wheels after every mountain.