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E46 M3's are actually very affordable now.
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matt_mr2t wrote:
The problem is Lauren, you dont tend to be too open minded yourself.Everything seems to be integra or M3, and you even managed to squeeze them both in this post to prove the point.
matt_mr2t wrote:Haver you ever driven, or been in an M3?
ekona wrote:You really need to Lauren, they're beautiful cars.I drove an E46 manual on a test drive a few years back, and were it not for the fact that the pedals are strongly set to the right
(which made it uncomfortable for me personally and I kept clipping the bottom of the brake pedal when coming off the clutch) then I'd seriously consider owning one.
I think it was the brakes that did it for me, as while I never got to test how fade resistant they were they certainly stopped me better than anything this side of a 996 GT3RS.
They really did feel that good.
Bit dull inside, but wonderfully balanced.
matt_mr2t wrote:I do think you should at least try one before making relentless comments about how good they are.![]()
I've only been a passenger in an E36 M3 Evo, it felt quick and solid.Thats about all I could say tbh.
mr2lad wrote:matt_mr2t wrote:I do think you should at least try one before making relentless comments about how good they are.![]()
I've only been a passenger in an E36 M3 Evo, it felt quick and solid.Thats about all I could say tbh.
Definately.If you've never driven a car, how can you be
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'informed' as to what its like? One should never judge without first hand experience, afterall.
But yes, the E46 M3 is all the car most car enthusiasts would ever need IMO.Personally i'd rather have the E46 with its straight six and better looks than its V8 replacement, which is slated for its brutal nature.
ekona wrote:Blimey, that was a while ago! Yup, that was me who spent 20 mins underneath the car trying to get the undertray off so they could stick it on the dyno![]()
steve b wrote:Was the VX that good?The turbo has always appealled to me and I've spoken to many owners at trackdays, most have said they need different size wheels and a few other mods to sort them out.
I hate to say it but I do like sheer speed and power out of corners and so the regular engined Elise varients I think I'd find disappointing as I'm always powering past them,..
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the VX turbo however fixes that.
ekona wrote:steve b wrote:Was the VX that good?The turbo has always appealled to me and I've spoken to many owners at trackdays, most have said they need different size wheels and a few other mods to sort them out.
I hate to say it but I do like sheer speed and power out of corners and so the regular engined Elise varients I think I'd find disappointing as I'm always powering past them,..
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the VX turbo however fixes that.
Mine was the VXR, so it already had Exige sized wheels(16in F, 17in R), uprated suspension, more power, and some bits painted black instead of red.
The trouble with most S2 Elises is that they've got ridiculously under-sized front wheels which makes for a lot of understeer: Nice and safe, but not particularly fun.
Change the wheels and you're sorted though, or get yourself an S1.
The stock VXT suffers from the same issue to an extent, although Vauxhall went for 17" wheels all round for aesthetic purposes.
Tbh the whole(well, one of) reason I moved from the VXR to a 350Z is that I'd gotten bored of trying to balance the throttle of a turbo'd car round a corner and wanted something far more linear instead, and a nice torquey NA engine has given me exactly that.
I've got grunt down low so I don't have to swap cogs unless I want to, but I'm also not exactly short of top end power either.
What I'm trying to get at is that on track something like an Elise R or Honda conversion will be an absolute blast as you can simply live in the top quarter of the powerband and whilst you won't feel the shove exiting a corner that you do with a turbo car, because of the extra control you certainly will be cornering faster in the first place.
For point and squirt a turbo is king, for more control you'd need NA or SC.You can get SC kits for both the VX NA and Elise R now too, and prices for the actual cars are still dropping.
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Tasty wrote:Aint Vauxhall German owned<`ere we go again> lol
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