HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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antnkel
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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noones asking you to ditch the tubby they are a good car just as the v6 is, if you look at these kind of threads it's always the tubby owners making funny remarks ](*,)
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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antnkel wrote:For starters I have the 1mz engine which is about 200bh stock and has had some head work done as well as a couple of other mods which will see it well over 200hp :mrgreen:

but for a 3.0 V6 engine thats pants ,Id want 100HP per liter minimum.
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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antnkel wrote:noones asking you to ditch the tubby they are a good car just as the v6 is, if you look at these kind of threads it's always the tubby owners making funny remarks ](*,)

LOL I know that , Im just saying that if your going to the hassle of swapping in a V6 and least put one in there with some balls.

I might look into whats needed to do it , prob about 5K on the engine work and mapping.
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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I've done it because my tubby engine went so I had to spend money no matter what!
Oh and the 100hp/litre it will be close enough quite soon \:D/
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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antnkel wrote:I've done it because my tubby engine went so I had to spend money no matter what!
Oh and the 100hp/litre it will be close enough quite soon \:D/


now that will do the job nicely!! :twisted:
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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Blacklightning66 wrote:
antnkel wrote:I've done it because my tubby engine went so I had to spend money no matter what!
Oh and the 100hp/litre it will be close enough quite soon \:D/


now that will do the job nicely!! :twisted:


Well lets hope so as I hav'nt even driven it yet and won't be up to full power straight away.
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Blacklightning66 wrote:
i can wind up my boost and leave it dead in the water...


until your ringlands collapse :wink:
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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antnkel wrote:"It's great to be able to beat slow-ish times" in "so called sports cars"
Some people will always be negitive about v6's no matter what.
Shame! :?



well done for rearranging what i actually said!
why bother using quote symbols when thats not what i wrote.
:shock: ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
:clap: :clap: #-o

to top that, where did i actually dis the V6, i didnt.
i think there cool.
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Even the modded ones didnt do so well over here.

Jinja got a yellow one, spent thousands on it. Supercharged etc, and it managed the same time as a standard Rev 3 turbo on the strip.

Which is faster was proven a long time ago.
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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shibby! wrote:Even the modded ones didnt do so well over here.

Jinja got a yellow one, spent thousands on it. Supercharged etc, and it managed the same time as a standard Rev 3 turbo on the strip.

Which is faster was proven a long time ago.


For those who live their lives a 1/4 mile at a time it is...

take it on the twisty roads, drive it properly, and see who arrives first.

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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

Post by Michel »

I've beat a v6 on the nordschleife with my n/a 155bhp lump. Nordschleife is one big twisty road.. I guess it also depends on the driver.. :mrgreen:

Ultimately the rev.3 Turbo will be faster but less involving.
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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jimGTS wrote:
antnkel wrote:"It's great to be able to beat slow-ish times" in "so called sports cars"
Some people will always be negitive about v6's no matter what.
Shame! :?



well done for rearranging what i actually said!
why bother using quote symbols when thats not what i wrote.
:shock: ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
:clap: :clap: #-o

to top that, where did i actually dis the V6, i didnt.
i think there cool.




Well I do apologies if you didn't mean it like that, but that's what it looked like to me- too many people seem ready to put them down at every step of the way! :roll:
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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i dont see anyone putting them down at all.
just a different way of putting down the power.

Yeh it is kinda weird seeing other so called sports car making slow-ish times, makes you feel you've chosen well, LOL.

by this i ment, its weird seeing other so called sports cars, ie, s2000, mk5, civic, etc etc making slower times, and yet a much older car, the mr2, with a few tweeks and different stock-ish engine beating them all.
"makes you feel youve chosen well", simply means, makes you realise you chose the better car, lol.
thats a positive comment if you ask me, lol.
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There will always be an argument for the turbo, and one for the V6.

I've had both. The turbo was an animal, making well over 450bhp at the flywheel with 360ft/lb of torque at 5500rpm. Very fast, but it was an absolute pig to drive.

The V6 is making close to 200 at the wheels and somewhere around 220 ft/lb of torque at around 2800 rpm.

For me, there's no contest. V6 every time. :thumleft:

The torque, the sound and the difference in drivability is a world away from the turbo. More of the performance is available more of the time, which, lets be fair, is what everybody's after anyway.

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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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what you done to the v6 earl to get it close to those figs?
ive barely seen any v6s get close to 200 at the fly let alone at the wheels...
(bar the SC boys, lol)

i hope to hear one for real asap!
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jimGTS wrote:what you done to the v6 earl to get it close to those figs?
ive barely seen any v6s get close to 200 at the fly let alone at the wheels...
(bar the SC boys, lol)

i hope to hear one for real asap!

Jim, the 3VZ-FE makes around 200 bone stock at the fly. With light porting and downpipe mods, it's quite easy to get that sort of power from the V6. SC'd motors make around 260+ at the fly, with a mountain of torque coming up before 2500 rpm.

I was really lucky to have the lowest mileage motor Woodsport have ever used for a convesion, so not only does it make decent horsepower, it's also incredibly frugal. I regularly get 400 miles to a tank, thrashed or not.

The sound with a quite mundane system on the V6 is awesome mate. I have a Fujitsubo Legalis R on mine, and the sound is utterly awesome. The same system on a turbo is positively boring. :wink:

I'd love to take you out in it mate. I guarentee you'd be converted within the first couple of seconds! :wink:

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arh ok cool, forgot theres like a tons of different v6s to fit.

well im currently converted to screamer pipe land and external wastegates, lol...
so would be hard pushed to convert me considering i only just got myself a modded rev5 tubby, lol...

still, be good to hear one. \:D/
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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jimGTS wrote:arh ok cool, forgot theres like a tons of different v6s to fit.

well im currently converted to screamer pipe land and external wastegates, lol...
so would be hard pushed to convert me considering i only just got myself a modded rev5 tubby, lol...

still, be good to hear one. \:D/

Nah, that's fair enough Jimbo. I was exactly the same when I got the Beast back from Andi. The sound of that screamer pipe was totally addictive...



...pretty much like the supercharger will be when I fit it to the V6. :twisted:

Later bud. :wink:
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Re: HELP ! Not sure about V6 conversion

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:mrgreen: :thumleft:
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EarL wrote:There will always be an argument for the turbo, and one for the V6.

I've had both. The turbo was an animal, making well over 450bhp at the flywheel with 360ft/lb of torque at 5500rpm. Very fast, but it was an absolute pig to drive.

The V6 is making close to 200 at the wheels and somewhere around 220 ft/lb of torque at around 2800 rpm.

For me, there's no contest. V6 every time. :thumleft:

The torque, the sound and the difference in drivability is a world away from the turbo. More of the performance is available more of the time, which, lets be fair, is what everybody's after anyway.

EarL.


Earl...you had yours on the rollers yet to substantiate the 200 @ the wheels claim or is that just a gut feel??

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