Removing aftermarket dump valve

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jamuk2004
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Removing aftermarket dump valve

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Hello

Can anyone give advice on how to remove an air circulating dump valve and what original part I would need to put it back to stock?

Its a baileys dump valve.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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You can just buy a blanking plate and run without any kind of BOV at all. Plenty of people doing it including myself. IMO it runs absolutely fine.
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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What's a blanking plate?? So theres so side effects to doing?
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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Well the old tale is that it can cause damage to the turbo shaft, but seeing as nobody has ever complained about killing a turbo due to not running a bov I'll believe it when I see it.

Plus without a bov you get a cooler noise than those horrible bailieys units.

Another option would be to find someone selling a factory recirc valve and fit that, years ago you could get em for nowt
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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I'd much rather go to stock, do you happen to know what that would be in terms of part number or name I should for? I presume its as obvious as it sounds 'blow off valve'?

If anyone is selling one please let me know.

When you say blanking plate is that a thing I can actually buy so on ebay or is it a homemade thing?

As you can probably tell I no idea about these things.. :D
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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I believe xxxx sell them in the UK - When I bought my one I ordered it from the states. I did originally fabricate one from a flat piece of steel and it worked but then I chose to buy a proper one after that's more like a bung.
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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Thank you I found it on their website, not sure why the name has been removed in your post.

What kind of sound does that make Vs. an air circulating dump valve?
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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I think the name was automatically adjusted. I seem to remember some history on this forum that's probably long in the past. Anyway let's not get into that.

I've running a blitz induction kit with GT3076R and a Nur Spec. So I can hardly hear the BOV anyway lol. To be honest I don't think the noise is that loud with it blocked off. It will just sound a bit chattery. I like it. I'm also running without a BOV on my 500bhp Evo X. It sounds awesome.
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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This is what it sounds like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIhFi_ksc4

I'd like to try it on mine but the ST205 chargecooler doesn't have an easy way to fit a blanking plate unlike the smic pipes. Like I could put a cap over it but I feel like whatever I do to secure it isn't going to be enough.
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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Can't you run a silicon hose from the CC core with a bung in it? I'm trying to remember in my head what that setup looks like.
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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I've got a silicone L piece that attaches to the bov currently. I just thought that the bung wouldn't be secure enough with a jubilee clip on it or summat
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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Race Idiot wrote:I've got a silicone L piece that attaches to the bov currently. I just thought that the bung wouldn't be secure enough with a jubilee clip on it or summat


You need a bung with a lip at the top to stop it getting sucked in. They are cheap on ebay. I run one on my Evo running big boost at 500bhp and there's no way that thing is getting sucked in or spat out.
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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I'd really like to go back to the stock setup but not quite sure what to do..

Looking at my setup, I think there is just one missing piece which is this which is a rev 3 engine that I think is stock ...

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Anyone know what part this is?

On mine, its gone and a pipe goes from there over to the dump baileys dump valve.

This is what mine looks like:

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The blue cable goes over to this bit:

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So I assume I can just remove it and put a pipe straight through where the dump valve was, then pipe in that missing piece I mentioned

Any help appreciated
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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jamuk2004 wrote:I'd really like to go back to the stock setup but not quite sure what to do..

Looking at my setup, I think there is just one missing piece which is this which is a rev 3 engine that I think is stock ...

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Anyone know what part this is?

On mine, its gone and a pipe goes from there over to the dump baileys dump valve.

This is what mine looks like:

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The blue cable goes over to this bit:

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So I assume I can just remove it and put a pipe straight through where the dump valve was, then pipe in that missing piece I mentioned

Any help appreciated


The little thing you are missing is a vacuum transfer valve. 90925-01059
As far as I remember its a 2 way valve, but with some restriction to one direction.

If I understand correctly you want to go back to full stock with the air recirc valve?

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jamuk2004
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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Ahh brilliant thanks

Yes that's right I want to put it back to stock recirc.

Do you know if there is anything else I would need?
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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jamuk2004 wrote:Ahh brilliant thanks

Yes that's right I want to put it back to stock recirc.

Do you know if there is anything else I would need?


Apart from a small piece of vacuum pipe you don't need anything else.
I would try ask mr-mr2 on flebay for that valve. He is always helpful.

May I ask why are you getting rid of the BOV?

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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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I'm not really a fan of the sound it makes and want the car to be close to stock as possible really.

Is that a vacuum to the connect to the vacuum transmitting cable? I was thinking I could use the blue hose that currently goes the baileys dump valve would that be suitable?
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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jamuk2004 wrote:I'm not really a fan of the sound it makes and want the car to be close to stock as possible really.

Is that a vacuum to the connect to the vacuum transmitting cable? I was thinking I could use the blue hose that currently goes the baileys dump valve would that be suitable?


Gotcha

Yes, you sure can use the blue hose

Cheers
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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VTV is essential to the operation of the stock valve, must be connected up as stock to work.
jamuk2004
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Re: Removing aftermarket dump valve

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Thanks for all your help

Just one more thing, to replace the big pipe which currently has the baileys dump valve in it with a straight pipe, does anyone know the diameter and length pipe I would need or if the stock one has a name I can look up?

Thanks again
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