I have a Power FC waiting to go on my car but I can't afford to get it mapped right away
Is there any advantage running the Power FC with just the base map loaded or am I best sticking with the stock ECU?
I'm running the usual bolt-on mods, charge cooler and 1.1bar on an EBC.
Cheers,
Mark
[Mk2] [Turbo] Power FC on base map or Stock ECU? - Rev3 Turbo
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Power FC on base map or Stock ECU? - Rev3 Turbo
Chumbaside wrote:Is there any advantage running the Power FC with just the base map loaded?
None whatsoever.
A base map should only be regarded as sufficient to get the engine running.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Power FC on base map or Stock ECU? - Rev3 Turbo
Perfect, just what I needed to know.
Thanks Pete
Thanks Pete
Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Power FC on base map or Stock ECU? - Rev3 Turbo
I have a datalogit and fcedit, if you wanted I could flash a 'safe' map onto it for you if you sent me your ecu.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Power FC on base map or Stock ECU? - Rev3 Turbo
As peter said. However I ran my car for ages with the base map that is on the apexi ecu as i was in the same boat as you. Just had to scale for my injectors. Didnt blow up or that but of course theres always a risk and there was no real benefit.
Obviously never going to be as good as a live map but the base map is regarded as a very safe map. Depends on your modifications aswell. If you do decide to run it then just keep a close eye on knock levels and the air fuel ratio if you have wideband fitted.
I was £300 for mapping my power fc for the record
Obviously never going to be as good as a live map but the base map is regarded as a very safe map. Depends on your modifications aswell. If you do decide to run it then just keep a close eye on knock levels and the air fuel ratio if you have wideband fitted.
I was £300 for mapping my power fc for the record
Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Power FC on base map or Stock ECU? - Rev3 Turbo
The base map on the power FC is pretty good. The base maps were created using dyno time from what I read some time ago - so they aren't just numbers somebody dreamed up and plugged in there for the heck of it.
But yes, obviously it's just to get you in the ballpark so get it mapped properly for the fuel you are running (and as Peter said -leaving stock rev 3 ECU on is the most sensible option if you have stock injectors still)
But yes, obviously it's just to get you in the ballpark so get it mapped properly for the fuel you are running (and as Peter said -leaving stock rev 3 ECU on is the most sensible option if you have stock injectors still)
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Power FC on base map or Stock ECU? - Rev3 Turbo
Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated
Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Power FC on base map or Stock ECU? - Rev3 Turbo
Kongaroo wrote:The base map on the power FC is pretty good. The base maps were created using dyno time from what I read some time ago - so they aren't just numbers somebody dreamed up and plugged in there for the heck of it.
But yes, obviously it's just to get you in the ballpark so get it mapped properly for the fuel you are running (and as Peter said -leaving stock rev 3 ECU on is the most sensible option if you have stock injectors still)
But based on japanese 100 octane fuel, comparing the base map to my map, the base map runs a lot of ignition advance, and not a lot of tps enrichment. Amongst other things.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Power FC on base map or Stock ECU? - Rev3 Turbo
Yes it's a basemap for 100 octane so it should be treated as a ballpark. On 99RON, off boost or even a few psi of boost it should be fine from my past experience. But obviously do so at your own risk.
As mentioned you can use it as a ballpark but get it mapped for the fuel you want to run - whether that's 95, 97 or 99 octane etc. - before you start ragging it
I have seen some maps in the past from a couple of well known UK tuners that were essentially the PFC basemap with timing decreased globally by a couple of degrees across the map. The only mapping having been done being in the couple of rows or so of numbers that the car ran in when on full boost. So the basemap can't be that bad
As mentioned you can use it as a ballpark but get it mapped for the fuel you want to run - whether that's 95, 97 or 99 octane etc. - before you start ragging it
I have seen some maps in the past from a couple of well known UK tuners that were essentially the PFC basemap with timing decreased globally by a couple of degrees across the map. The only mapping having been done being in the couple of rows or so of numbers that the car ran in when on full boost. So the basemap can't be that bad