I have a set of Advan SA3Rs that I put on my car a couple of weeks ago and I am getting some pretty gnarly vibration through the steering wheel over 60 mph.
I haven't had a chance to get them properly balanced/aligned/etc yet but I've also seen a lot online regarding hubcentric spacers/spigot rings as a potential fix.
As always, any help is appreciated!
[Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
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Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
alignment
balancing
spigot rings
Spigot rings reduce the bore size of aftermarket wheels to 60.1mm for MR2 MK2 hubs, for a centralised fit on the hub flange.
If your advans are missing the spigot rings, chances are they won't be sat central on the hub. Whip the wheel off and look for a plastic ring inside the wheel bore, or on the hub flange.
if alignment, balancing or spigots don't sort your vibration, look at the issue of the wheel being buckled and have it checked for straightness.
hubcentric spacers are only ever used for incorrect offset wheels, so that they're able to be flush/clear suspension etc.
balancing
spigot rings
Spigot rings reduce the bore size of aftermarket wheels to 60.1mm for MR2 MK2 hubs, for a centralised fit on the hub flange.
If your advans are missing the spigot rings, chances are they won't be sat central on the hub. Whip the wheel off and look for a plastic ring inside the wheel bore, or on the hub flange.
if alignment, balancing or spigots don't sort your vibration, look at the issue of the wheel being buckled and have it checked for straightness.
hubcentric spacers are only ever used for incorrect offset wheels, so that they're able to be flush/clear suspension etc.
Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
Cheers mate, I'll get those sorted in the order listed!
Is there somewhere in particular to find the correct spigot rings I would be looking for?
Is there somewhere in particular to find the correct spigot rings I would be looking for?
Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
Legit wrote:Cheers mate, I'll get those sorted in the order listed!
Is there somewhere in particular to find the correct spigot rings I would be looking for?
No worries buddy. Spigot rings, you need to know the bore size of the wheel by measuring it.
Then look for the correct spigot rings
For example, if the bore size is 70mm, then you'd need 70>60.1mm spigot rings.
Ebay & the likes of Demon Tweeks should be able to see you right. Failing that, you can get tailor made spigot rings.
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Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
If you don't have the correct size spigot rings on get them on asap. At the moment the wheel nuts are holding the cars weight rather than just pulling the wheel to the hub. You're subjecting them to the wrong stresses in the wrong direction. The spigot ring fills the gap between hub and wheel for a snug load bearing fit.
Pop some on (centre bore is 60.1mm), adjust tyre pressures as accurately as you can, get everything balanced and aligned and then report back....
Pop some on (centre bore is 60.1mm), adjust tyre pressures as accurately as you can, get everything balanced and aligned and then report back....
Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
Can I also add, get the alloy spigot rings and not the trashy nylon or plastic ones. They don't do the job and detriorate quickly and you end up running on the wheel studs (like HS mentioned) without knowing it.
You really can't fark about with wheels and the spigot rings are under £20 so it shouldn't break the bank.
You really can't fark about with wheels and the spigot rings are under £20 so it shouldn't break the bank.
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Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
Thanks all of you for the advice, I really appreciate it
I'm overseas with work at the moment but I'll measure up the bore when I'm back and get the right spigot rings on order
I assume they're realtively easy to fit?
I'm overseas with work at the moment but I'll measure up the bore when I'm back and get the right spigot rings on order
I assume they're realtively easy to fit?
Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
Legit wrote:
I assume they're realtively easy to fit?
Yep, they simply push into the wheel bore, thus reducing the bore size to 60.1mm for your MR2's hub flange.
Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
Torero wrote:Can I also add, get the alloy spigot rings and not the trashy nylon or plastic ones. They don't do the job and detriorate quickly and you end up running on the wheel studs (like HS mentioned) without knowing it.
You really can't fark about with wheels and the spigot rings are under £20 so it shouldn't break the bank.
Any idea where to get metal spigot rings?
Demon Tweeks/Camskill don't do them & ebay only seems to have plastic ones or the odd metal set but not in the right size.
I need 73.1mm - 60.1mm. Thanks.
spigot rings
never seen metal ones and obviously never used them, but then i,ve never had a problem with mine
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al/c wrote:never seen metal ones and obviously never used them, but then i,ve never had a problem with mine
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Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
I'm looking for Aluminium spigot rings in 73.1-60.1 as well. Some on eBay from Australia for about £30 or online in the UK for about £40. Not found any for £20 yet!
Search Hub Centric rings.
Search Hub Centric rings.
Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
I have metal ones on mine, I'll try to find out where I bought them from as I cannot remember right now and let you know. They were from eBay and in the UK. The plastic ones are just as good though really as long as you use the correct ones you wont get any distortion or movement issues.
With regards to vibrations, 9 out of 10 times it will be balancing so either the wheels/tyres themselves or wrong/lack of spiggot rings.
With regards to vibrations, 9 out of 10 times it will be balancing so either the wheels/tyres themselves or wrong/lack of spiggot rings.
Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
I just got a reply from the ebay seller I got my wheel nuts from.
73.1mm-60.1mm metal spigot rings are £25 inc p&p.
Lead time is 3 to 7 days.
Ebay listing number: 141030730940
This is not for the right size, just so you can find the seller.
73.1mm-60.1mm metal spigot rings are £25 inc p&p.
Lead time is 3 to 7 days.
Ebay listing number: 141030730940
This is not for the right size, just so you can find the seller.
Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
Great info Mullen. Just sent the seller a message.
Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
That's the same company I bought my aluminium spigot rings from, quality and service was good.
Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
That's where I got mine from and as well and they give a really good service.
TBH - I've never experienced any issues with nylon spigot rings but I found a few threads on the forums with cautionary information (albeit anecdotal) about them and I made the choice not to use them as a lot of what was being spoken about seemed to make sense.
TBH - I've never experienced any issues with nylon spigot rings but I found a few threads on the forums with cautionary information (albeit anecdotal) about them and I made the choice not to use them as a lot of what was being spoken about seemed to make sense.
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Re: [Mk2] [Generic] Vibration over 60 mph - hubcentric spacers/spigot rings?
I agree, they have been very helpful. I actually bought my nylon ones from the same seller a couple of years ago.
As my wheels seem to be off/on regularly I thought it was a worthwhile investment to go aluminium. May rule out a bit of wheel wobble before getting a re-balance.
As my wheels seem to be off/on regularly I thought it was a worthwhile investment to go aluminium. May rule out a bit of wheel wobble before getting a re-balance.