Difference between GT and non-GT

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n52
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

Post by n52 »

My N/A insured via numberplate is down at MR2GT, I'm with admiral multicar 21 2yrs no claims no speeding points, all mods declared, £800 :s It's a GTi-16.

I found multicar with all the household cars cuts all our bills massively..
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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Odin_S wrote:
JD wrote:UK

Coupe - 3S-FE/moonroof/no wing/no fog lights
GTi-16 "GT" - 3S-GE/wing/fog lights
GTi-16 T-bar "GT T-bar" - 3S-GE/wing/fog lights/T-Bar

Jarpan

G - 3S-GE/auto box as standard/basic
G-Limited - comparable to UK Gti-16 models but auto box standard
GT-S - 3S-GTE/a few creature comforts as standard/Wangan warrior
GT - 3S-GTE/full fat big daddy/Yakuza boss's daughter option

USA

MR2 - 5S-FE 2.2ltr ladymobile
MR2 turbo - 3S-GTE California-emissions hatin' rich girl's car

Someone please correct any mistakes I have made :-k


Mostly right apart from G limited most are manual


Yeah but wasn't it auto box as standard with manual as a popular option? That's what i meant.
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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JD wrote:
Odin_S wrote:
JD wrote:UK

Coupe - 3S-FE/moonroof/no wing/no fog lights
GTi-16 "GT" - 3S-GE/wing/fog lights
GTi-16 T-bar "GT T-bar" - 3S-GE/wing/fog lights/T-Bar

Jarpan

G - 3S-GE/auto box as standard/basic
G-Limited - comparable to UK Gti-16 models but auto box standard
GT-S - 3S-GTE/a few creature comforts as standard/Wangan warrior
GT - 3S-GTE/full fat big daddy/Yakuza boss's daughter option

USA

MR2 - 5S-FE 2.2ltr ladymobile
MR2 turbo - 3S-GTE California-emissions hatin' rich girl's car

Someone please correct any mistakes I have made :-k


Mostly right apart from G limited most are manual


Yeah but wasn't it auto box as standard with manual as a popular option? That's what i meant.



About as standard the UK one :) G limited is just the Japanese NA. Autos are rare especially rev 3 plus
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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Get thee to wikipedia and update that article then!
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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Yeh I've never heard of a mk2, any model coming stadard with an auto!

Infact I could count the amount of autos I've seen on a couple of hands over the years.
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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At the end of the day it doesn't matter what mis-direction the insurers have on model no (GT-i adveritsed as a GT is a pet hate of mine) as long as it's insured accurrately and honestly with your insuerers. Elephant and Admiral I wouldn't touch after trying personally.

Get thee to wikipedia and update that article then!


...wikipedia is only as good as the last person updating it but is a good guide.
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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Pretty sure GT stands for Grand Touring and the 'i' for injection as it's a fuel injected car. The inclusion of the 'i' was more common in older cars as there were still many carbureter engined motors knocking about.

My Cars an NA GT - as stated in all my documentation and original receipts etc.

Sorry to disappoint but the T doesn't stand for turbo.

If I was 17-21 and wanting to get insured on my NA I'd expect to pay over £1500 too. If your older, with a clean license, I'd check the clarity of your application or shop around :)
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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As long as you're happy with your definition
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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GT doesn't really stand for anything on a lot of more modern cars. I mean, a Peugeot 205 was never going to be a grand tourer, especially when you forsake the creature comforts to make it hotter.

GT = big boot, comfort, power, speed, custom luggage set, moustache, walnut trim, hotplate, espresso machine; enough poke and poise for an alpine road on a crisp morning while having enough room for one's skis and a selection of dinner jackets. Actually, you could definitely get a pair of skis and some dinner jackets in a 205. What the hell am I talking about?
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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RST wrote:As long as you're happy with your definition


I thought that too, some people don't like the truth :lol:
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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RST wrote:As long as you're happy with your definition


I thought that too, some people don't like the truth :lol:
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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The mr2 is actually a fantastic car for touring. It offers comfort, speed, removable roof panels, excellent handling and a relaxing drive. There's also ample boot, frunk and behind seat space. The mrs and I often travel away in the car and find it more than accommodating. There's even a hook for hanging your dinner jacket (as I did last week in fact). Never have I driven a car that's had my full attention and enjoyment on long, usually arduous journeys. The driving position is absolutely superb for somebody like me over 6ft and with back problems. An excellent tourer I'd say :)

Have you tried looking at classic policies? Perhaps a slightly older rev would be suit better?
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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-.- yes all well and good Razzy, but that not the issue we are talking about.

We are talking about getting the name of the car correct for insurance purposes.

All uk cars are GTi16 but over the years traders and owners alike have muddy the waters mixing them up with the models that we named "GT" from the factory.

Its not the only case, now many "Anniversary" MR2 have we since over the year which we clearly not. Just because the V5 say it doesnt always make it correct.

I know this slippery insurance companies would be the first to say void if you had an incident and your car was named incorrectly.
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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Odin_S wrote:All uk cars are GTi16 but over the years traders and owners alike have muddy the waters mixing them up with the models that we named "GT" from the factory.

I think you'll find that even Toyota GB called the UK models GT & GT T-bar :D
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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I do t think the 'GT' status of the car is the issue here. If it's a UK car than it's a GT and it's NA. Everything else is imported.

The insurance companies will know if it's naturally aspirated or not because you either tell them or it appears in drop down menus online. If they still can't get it right then stay away, they're not the insurance company for you.

An older car may be easier to insure under a classic, limited milage policy (performance direct?) Or take a look at your location? I was refused insurance as a student living in Middlesbrough a few years back as the car crime in the area was notorious. The few quotes I could get were absurd. Back home however, things were very affordable.

Age as well. Some of you may be in more financially comfortable positions as a 20 yr old than I was at that age. I was patient and waited until I was at the age where getting an MR2 and insuring it was affordable. Let's face it, your throwing money away insuring a vehicle that's worth probably £1200 max (as an NA) but being insured for double that.

There are LOADS of past threads on this site that cover this issue.

Oh, and if the V5 says it, assuming it's legit, then I'm sure in the eyes of the insurers it's correct mate ;)
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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Ouch I'm 19 with one years no claims and are getting quoted about £800 on mine. I took a big hit initially though and paid £2.6k at 18 with 0 NCB and got one as a first car.

iirc mine comes back as a GT even though it is a GTi-16.
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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RazzyRascal wrote:If it's a UK car than it's a GT


Unless of course, it's a 3S-FE powered car, simply known as a "MR2". No go-faster letters added.
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
RazzyRascal wrote:If it's a UK car than it's a GT


Unless of course, it's a 3S-FE powered car, simply known as a "MR2". No go-faster letters added.


I've never actually seen an 3S-FE.. I always imagine a hamster in wheel if I open the engine bay.. :wink:
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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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Draven wrote:
Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
RazzyRascal wrote:If it's a UK car than it's a GT


Unless of course, it's a 3S-FE powered car, simply known as a "MR2". No go-faster letters added.


I've never actually seen an 3S-FE.. I always imagine a hamster in wheel if I open the engine bay.. :wink:


My first MR2 was a 1990 MK2 3SFE. Tractor ride height, pea shooter exhausts, very slow. Had it on a dyno. She kicked out a massive 99bhp.

The engine looks quite small in the bay:

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Re: Difference between GT and non-GT

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Looks like a stainless mainfold?
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