[Mk2] [Turbo] rev 3 stock oil cooler delete and aftermarket kit, does one exist?

[mark239]

Is there a rev 3 remote oil cooler kit out of the box anywhere?

I want to remove the stock rev 3 cooler as it fouls on my new manifold, and I don't want to modify the manifold!

I'm only looking a kit as I want to get it all sorted asap.

Ta

[bobhatton]

Is there a rev 3 remote oil cooler kit out of the box anywhere?

I want to remove the stock rev 3 cooler as it fouls on my new manifold, and I don't want to modify the manifold!

I'm only looking a kit as I want to get it all sorted asap.

Ta

No.

[afennell]

Didn't Phoenix power do one?

[shinny]

Removing the stock oil cooler might be a bad idea, as it helps the oil warm up initially. (OK, just saw why you want to remove it)

If you do get an external kit, make sure you get decent braided hose connections I broke down 3 times with rubber hoses (that someone on here sold me as a "kit") popping off and spewing oil everywhere. Also, it's easy to over-cool the oil, so get a thermostat in the system for sure.

See here for the system I made to fit where the SMIC previously was: http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=174796

Even with my thermostatic sandwhich plate, the oil is barely warm enough and sits about 83°C on an motorway cruise where previously it would have been 110°C (or more on a hot summer's day). I only fitted the cooler because oil temps on the Nurburgring were pushing 130°C which was a bit higher than I was happy with, given a mineral oil would start breaking down at that point. However opinion varies and I think I'm probably now at too cold rather than too hot.

[mark239]

Just made one up from mocal parts, side exit takeoff plate, thermostat and cooler.

[bobhatton]

Removing the stock oil cooler might be a bad idea, as it helps the oil warm up initially. (OK, just saw why you want to remove it)

If you do get an external kit, make sure you get decent braided hose connections I broke down 3 times with rubber hoses (that someone on here sold me as a "kit") popping off and spewing oil everywhere. Also, it's easy to over-cool the oil, so get a thermostat in the system for sure.

See here for the system I made to fit where the SMIC previously was: http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=174796

Even with my thermostatic sandwhich plate, the oil is barely warm enough and sits about 83°C on an motorway cruise where previously it would have been 110°C (or more on a hot summer's day). I only fitted the cooler because oil temps on the Nurburgring were pushing 130°C which was a bit higher than I was happy with, given a mineral oil would start breaking down at that point. However opinion varies and I think I'm probably now at too cold rather than too hot.

Oil should be at 120c to 150c. 180c is as high as it should go and no lower than 110c

[shinny]

Oil should be at 120c to 150c. 180c is as high as it should go and no lower than 110c

So I hear from various sources... but then again, oil 'stats are around 80°C, oil gauges tend to have warnings set 110-120°C and mineral oils break down around 130°C. And there is so much advice out there in the range of 85-110°C being about right. Leaves me darn confused!

I guess there is also the question of your intent? I would think that, within bounds, a cooler oil (80--100°C) will lubricate better but provide more physical resistance than a hotter oil (130°C+). So perhaps racing applications will aim to run hotter oil than road cars?

[Nic]

It's good to regularly get the oil above 100C to boil off any moisture.