Fitted a manual boost controller, won't go over 10psi.

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Fitted a manual boost controller, won't go over 10psi.

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Hi

I fitted a mbc today. The ball and spring type from gts chris.

I blocked the tvsv at the vsv end.

Went on a run, 10 psi.

Turned the screw in, still at 10 psi.

Any ideas?
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Re: Fitted a manual boost controller, won't go over 10psi.

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Might not of sealed the tvsv end properly.
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any pics of how you fitted it
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4ndee wrote:any pics of how you fitted it


I'll get one.. i followed the instruction.

Boost leak may be the issue.
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if it's a GTS chris one, they sometimes need a coil cutting off the spring :thumleft:
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sheppy wrote:if it's a GTS chris one, they sometimes need a coil cutting off the spring :thumleft:


That'll only serve to reduce the boost, not increase it :-#
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Slarty wrote:
sheppy wrote:if it's a GTS chris one, they sometimes need a coil cutting off the spring :thumleft:


That'll only serve to reduce the boost, not increase it :-#


logic.

It's probably a leak.
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did you block tvsv actuator end to?
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i put a bolt in it. and tied it up.

I think the leak is there. The only option to be honest.

I need to check it again.
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Slarty wrote:
sheppy wrote:if it's a GTS chris one, they sometimes need a coil cutting off the spring :thumleft:


That'll only serve to reduce the boost, not increase it :-#


i thought it was to give less tension in the spring resulting in actual control of your boost, i bought one years ago and it didn't matter which way you turned it, the boost wouldn't go up or down. cutting a coil off solved this issue.

i'd stick some plumbers tape on all the threads too, they leak like fook otherwise.
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You turn the knob to apply load to the spring and the ball bearing.

If more load is on the ball bearing it is harder for the air to reach the actuator so more boost is required to move the ball bearing and actuate the waste gate.
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I blocked the airway properly.

Still got the issue.

I think it might be faulty.
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Re: Fitted a manual boost controller, won't go over 10psi.

Post by GreddyMR2 »

When I bought an MBC, it also holded about 10psi of boost at max.

Then I took off a spring and streched it to be a bit longer. now I can have boost as much as I want. Maybe the better idea would be just to but a stiffer spring, because streching is not the best option probably.
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Re: Fitted a manual boost controller, won't go over 10psi.

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Huh?

I bought it off GTSChris.

For the mr2.

If it doesn't work I'm sending it back and he can send me a new one.
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cut a coil off it, ](*,)
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just open it up and see what you can see.

its an extremely primitive device.


personally, i would be buying an electrical boost controller.
in cabin control, set the gain, boost limit etc
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completely agree,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUTOGAUGE-EBC ... 336de4ffad


you can't get better value than this, i have one of these fitted and it does the job fantastically :thumleft:

(just to note, r-spec performance in the Uk sell the exact same unit for £135)
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sheppy wrote:cut a coil off it, ](*,)


He wants to increase the boost, not lower it ](*,)

Cutting a coil off will reduce the preload on the spring. This in turn will make the valve open at a lower amount of boost thereby opening the wastegate actuator at a lower boost.

@OP You can, as Greddy MR2 suggested, "stretch" the spring slightly, which may help :thumleft:
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Re: Fitted a manual boost controller, won't go over 10psi.

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I know how they work. The problem is that the spring is too big for the thing. It doesn't do anything at all, its jutsa spring and ball crammed into a piece of metal. You need to cut off a coil or 2 then stretch it.
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