A trip to an MR2 race garage

[T.F.S.]

Well even if i get it to 180/190bhp i will still be happy!

you wont, not with cams alone. you will still need headwork, aftermarket ecu + mapping, adj cam pulleys, exhaust manifold/exhaust, the list goes on. ££££ not worth it

Dont they make 150bhp as standard?, just ITB system with ECU should easy get 180-190 at the fly I would have thought.

[rev3turbo]

just ITB system with ECU should easy get 180-190 at the fly I would have thought.

i dunno, try it? ive tried it the way i mentioned, either way you cant just put the cams in and get 180/190, it'll take alot of extra cash.

[Rogue]

You sir, have been led up the garden path. I've a good idea where you've been and just want to clarify since you refer to an "MR2 Race Garage" that it's not Rogue Motorsport. There are plenty of other people who can give you examples of items they have purchased from there not being what was described.

[Nic]

Well even if i get it to 180/190bhp i will still be happy!

You are going to be very disappointed if you believe they will make that much difference. Dependent on the spec of the cams you may gain a few extra horses but you will also lose some low down torque.

[Super_red]

285 profile varies depending on the car its for but usually you can run 285's with a plenum as long as you set them up with verniers very well. They can be made to retain good low end power as they are not a full race cam.

They will not run on the standard ECU as they are far to aggresive, or at least they will run but you will loose power. With a standalone and a good tune you will see 180 and upwards I am sure. The stock Rev 3 engine is 170 anyway isnt it?

[madbasshunter]

The stock Rev 3 engine is 170 anyway isnt it?

I think the op has a rev1 which would be 158.

[Road_Rebel]

The stock Rev 3 engine is 170 anyway isnt it?

I think the op has a rev1 which would be 158.

This is correct.

[Super_red]

The stock Rev 3 engine is 170 anyway isnt it?

I think the op has a rev1 which would be 158.

This is correct.

The point I was making is that the rest of the N/A setup is good for that sort of power as the rev 1/2 and rev 3 N/A engines are pretty similar in all other respects.

[Kongaroo]

Which MR2 garage did you go to mate?

[Al-sw20]

I NOW HAVE THEM at the price of two corbreau seats, i dont think the 2 seats quite equate to £600 so i think i got a good deal and they've only been used for one dyno run

There is a pair of cams on ebay for half that shipped. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toda-Racing-C ... 500wt_1287

You got scammed.

[Super_red]

Which MR2 garage did you go to mate?

One with big windows, they saw him coming. £420 brand new from Piper!

[Road_Rebel]

I NOW HAVE THEM at the price of two corbreau seats, i dont think the 2 seats quite equate to £600 so i think i got a good deal and they've only been used for one dyno run

There is a pair of cams on ebay for half that shipped. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toda-Racing-C ... 500wt_1287

You got scammed.

you don't know how much the seats cost me

[smartdj]

Putting used cams in

[leary123]

as said above..even if that was true...expect a car with xxxx all mid range power that would be a pig drive...
horse power is such an overated measuremant of overall performance...far too many people think that in general the more horsepower a car has the quicker it is ...in the generic sense its true because most of the time it suggests that there is torque to go with it but when your talking say 50 hp or so..there are so many other factors to take in.

i used to own a 1.6 mitsu colt...the jap import model (cyborg) had mivec in it (differnt cam timing) . the mivec version had an extra 40hp differnce..but the torque differnce was bu88er all and really the car was not alot quicker.

carol shelby said it all : "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races"

[gavinda]

if they are in as new condition as stated initially then they are certainly not worthless. without looking in great depth u have a cam profile equivalent to hks 264 which are a popular cam in the turbo motor. granted they are not going to do wonders in your N/A but would certainly be desirable in a high power 3sgte

[Super_red]

if they are in as new condition as stated initially then they are certainly not worthless. without looking in great depth u have a cam profile equivalent to hks 264 which are a popular cam in the turbo motor. granted they are not going to do wonders in your N/A but would certainly be desirable in a high power 3sgte

They are 285 profile so only suited to N/A, that duration of cam will just kill a turbo car.

Putting used cams in

Nothing wrong with fitting used cams, the ones in your car are used and they work just fine!

[bobhatton]

285 cams can be run in a turbo engine, its all down to what revs are needed for max power

[Century Motorsport]

if they are in as new condition as stated initially then they are certainly not worthless. without looking in great depth u have a cam profile equivalent to hks 264 which are a popular cam in the turbo motor. granted they are not going to do wonders in your N/A but would certainly be desirable in a high power 3sgte

They are 285 profile so only suited to N/A, that duration of cam will just kill a turbo car.

Putting used cams in

Nothing wrong with fitting used cams, the ones in your car are used and they work just fine!

My motor ran 288's well enough

[Super_red]

Sorry of course they will will work but they will need to have the rest of the engine built around them. No good as an upgrade to a stock MR2 looking for 3-400 bhp from a turbo lump!

I beleive Martin Hadlands 200mph Escort Cosworth runs a similar profile and ITB's but thats not your average lump either or your average way of extracting power from turbo charged cars.

[T.F.S.]

as said above..even if that was true...expect a car with xxxx all mid range power that would be a pig drive...
horse power is such an overated measuremant of overall performance...far too many people think that in general the more horsepower a car has the quicker it is ...in the generic sense its true because most of the time it suggests that there is torque to go with it but when your talking say 50 hp or so..there are so many other factors to take in.

i used to own a 1.6 mitsu colt...the jap import model (cyborg) had mivec in it (differnt cam timing) . the mivec version had an extra 40hp differnce..but the torque differnce was bu88er all and really the car was not alot quicker.

carol shelby said it all : "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races"

Troof!