Peter Gidden of Sbits.

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Buster
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Peter Gidden of Sbits.

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Now first off I'd like to apologize sincerely for the ranting over the past while, despite the fact I've been severely pi$$ed off at what I see has and hasn't been done to my car it's not really acceptable.

Now, there is literally so much I could say about what Peter Gidden and I agreed on regarding the work and what Peter claimed he had done, hasn't done and was going to do, after looking at other customers feedback it's fairly obvious it's pointless as Peter just lies, denies things, claims he's never touched whatever the problem is, tells you the often hilarious "it just needs bedding in" or whatever. Anything at all other than admit fault in any way at all.

So I'll just post up some of the pics etc of his standard of workmanship. I honestly don't care anymore about what his reply and defense or the hand on hip pouting statements about what I do for a living and that I am a possible drug user. I had to genuinely lol at that last one as it speaks volumes it really does.

So choose to believe whoever you like, maybe I'm too picky or whatever but I have no doubt Peter Gidden will accuse me of lying about it all, faking the issues etc. The pics alone speak volumes, well in my humble opinion they do anyway.


I was told quite clearly by Peter that ALL of his MR2 turbo conversions come with every single fluid renewed with new fluid all round. I'm no specialist or expert but this doesn't look like new clutch fluid to me? In fact, it kind of looks like it really should be renewed? I honestly don't know to be fair.


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Now 60 miles along the motorway the clutch pedal fell to floor but lifting it repeatedly and pumping it with my leg got me an working clutch again, the cars temp gauge was in the red after idling for a few mins while I checked for leaks. I then called Peter who had earlier informed me he was out socializing that evening and the response I got was not very confidence inspiring and he honestly could not have come across more disinterested if he had tried. He told me that there was absolutely no way the car could be overheating as he had bled the system and put coolant in it. Turns out he had reused the old coolant, no idea why as I asked him to use the fresh coolant I showed him that was in the boot of my car and that was left there when I dropped it off approximately 10 weeks ago for a job I was told very confidently in person by Peter in his own house as we were leaving to drop me at the train station, would take "2 weeks". Peter also said that if I could get the car in fifth I could "make it back to Scotland, keep in touch" and hung up.

Well given that there was absolutely zero offer of getting the car back down to him right away and him taking a look at least, him insinuating I was lying about the cars temp gauge and general disinterest I thought to myself well now that I seem to have a clutch again I'll try and continue and hopefully with the car moving through the air it will cool down. It did cool down whilst on the motorway and providing I kept pumping the clutch every 15 mins odds I could change gear if need be.

Forgot to mention that the turbo speedometer he fitted packed in shortly after I left his unit as well, but I haven't had a chance to check the connection and wiring there yet. More to come on Peters wiring in a bit.

Obviously I made it home and I sent Peter a text to tell him so and give him a general run down of what happened etc. Here is the text I sent and Peters subsequent responses.

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Not how I would have responded to a customer after that text but like I said, maybe I'm just too picky. Maybe I expect too much, sincerely meant btw.

So the next day I decide to have a look and see if there is anything obvious I can see and I also decide to check connections and the plugs.

What I did find was that every single plug was nowhere near right enough, if I remover correctly 2 I could undo by hand with just the extension bar and plug socket. I also started to notice what looked like to me anyway, some very very shoddy wiring, but like I said we will get to that.

I've got RAC home start so I decided to give them a call and see what they might find, test for or diagnose etc. RAC guy comes out and within a couple of mins of looking in the engine bay remarked at just how shocked he was at the wiring and general mess of things. Here's what his report, for what it's worth said,


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The ignition lead plastic guide that would have taken all of I think 4 M6 bolts to actually fix to the rocker cover was completely loose and literally rattling around on top of the rocker cover. Now to be honest, I'd have been happy enough if even a couple had been in place and reasonably tight. But not even one attempt at securing it with an old bolt from somewhere round the workshop?

So after speaking to the guy that generally looks after the car up here in Scotland, you know Scotland where you can arrive directly outside your front door in fifth gear. Lol. He suggested that I take it to Stainless Creations which isn't far from me, I'd did consider them to do the swap originally as I did with the guy that looks after the car most of the time up here but both were just too busy with other work. I had to nurse the car there followed by the RAC as it seriously didn't want to barely tick over. Dropped the car with them, they couldn't have been more helpful and agreed to look at the car and let me know asap.

I must apologize for the typos, but I'm using this rotten iPhone and I have serious carpal tunnel in both hands so it's not the easiest.

Anyway, the next day or maybe a couple of days later I can't remember I get a call telling me they are pretty confident it's the fuel pump and quote me to remove, check and refit. Hefty bill but I know dropping the tank on an MR2 is a right PITA so I tell them to go ahead, I don't really have a choice as I'm not doing what Peter Suggested and getting my car towed by a mate a few miles down the road and then lying through my teeth to get it returned to a guy that seems totally disinterested and as we are now discovering, has work that
Is far from up to an acceptable standard in my and several others opinions that I should should have listened to from the start. Peter is an incredible
Salesman he really is, certainly extremely talented in that department for sure.

Now telling that little lie to the RAC is obviously hardly the crime of the century, but I wasn't willing to do it for my own personal reasons along with the fact I'd lost all confidence in this traders ability to reliably and truthfully fix my car.

So a few a few days later and the faulty fuel pump is removed and all at the garage tell me they are very confident that it is not a quality branded uprated fuel pump but most likely a cheap Chinese copy like this, note the indentation mark,


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 2921837310



And here is the fuel pump removed from my car,


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Now, obviously I cannot be 100% positive that this is indeed a cheap Chinese copy or indeed the actual one removed from the car, but come on, who am I more likely to believe now considering?

Now I honestly, hand in heart hope I and the garage are wrong, it isn't a cheap copy and I really did get a TRE uprated fuel pump as reccomended I really do. The one that was removed from my car seems very cheap quality, actually rattles when you give it a shake, has no brand markings on it, i was certainly never given the box it was delivered in as most garages I've had work on my car have always given me the packaging any performance parts I've paid for have and as far as I can see looks absolutely nothing like the listed TRE 255 lph fuel pump I was persuaded to get instead of my usual Walbro 255.

Here is a link from TRE's website listing the 255 lph pump for my car,

http://trefuelpumps.com/i-88965-toyota- ... -pump.html

Sadly there were more issues found and the next one that really shocked me was that new, freshly fitted blueprint fuel filter that I had been charged for was in fact the original one that had been on the car from the day I got it. A non turbo one.

And here's just one of many pics I took when I was under the car the day I collected it having had its new Walbro fitted and several other issues attended to as well. One of which I personally consider was more than a little dangerous to say the least,


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Doesn't look like anyone has been near the thing at all does it? No oil marks, nuts/bolts don't look like they have seen a spanner or socket, and basically no signs anywhere at all to indicate it was even touched.


And here is the new, correct, turbo fuel filter after being sourced and fitted,


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Quite difference eh?

Now, that's enough for now, I'll try and continue this tomorrow as there is a fair bit more to go through and show. Obviously I'll show the garage invoice as I'm sure I'll be accessed of actually taking these parts off and replacing with substandard, incorrect and faulty items just because I don't want to pay my bill or whatever nonsense.

Just like I will have been the one that removed 6 lower gearbox mounting bolts out of spite or something equally as desperate.

Now, protein break for me. Got to make sure those "gym drugs" are being put to use and all that. ;)
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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

Post by markstevieandmads »

Why have you posted this all over again?
Its exactly what you have already said.

I did feel sorry for you when you first reported this but the fact that you have just gone on and on and on and on and on like a broken record , i just couldnt care less anymore.
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markstevieandmads wrote:Why have you posted this all over again?
Its exactly what you have already said.

I did feel sorry for you when you first reported this but the fact that you have just gone on and on and on and on and on like a broken record , i just couldnt care less anymore.



I guess he's just starting from the beginning but with pictures to support his argument, seems like a fair enough thing to do to me.

I really think for a trader to mention peoples personal lives, breakdown in relationships, medical conditions, allegations of drug use are total &%*$&*.
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markstevieandmads wrote:Why have you posted this all over again?
Its exactly what you have already said.

I did feel sorry for you when you first reported this but the fact that you have just gone on and on and on and on and on like a broken record , i just couldnt care less anymore.


Eh, so I can show evidence I'm not making it up perhaps as I will most likely be accused of doing?


Oh, maybe because it's the trader feedback section and I honestly don't want others to have the same done to them?

Er, possibly because some folk might actually want to see the claimed poor workmanship et al?


I'm sure you don't care, I care even less about how much you care trust me, I think I made my thoughts on what others choose to think or care about pretty clear at the start of my post.

In fact here's something else for you not to care about, a pic of my 5th meal today. ;)



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See, I bet you don't care about that either! Lol.
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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

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aussieGT wrote:
markstevieandmads wrote:Why have you posted this all over again?
Its exactly what you have already said.

I did feel sorry for you when you first reported this but the fact that you have just gone on and on and on and on and on like a broken record , i just couldnt care less anymore.



I guess he's just starting from the beginning but with pictures to support his argument, seems like a fair enough thing to do to me.

I really think for a trader to mention peoples personal lives, breakdown in relationships, medical conditions, allegations of drug use are total &%*$&*.


Yes that is 100% exactly why am doing it, to start again from the beginning and do my best to prove what I am saying is true and that I personally and many others that have had the misfortune of dealing with this guy should absolutley not be advertising himself as an "MR2 specialist" at the very least.
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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

Post by SonicSW20 »

Why didn't you post this in your existing thread? forums/viewtopic.php?t=194272&start=40

Really no need for multiple threads for the same thing.
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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

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Gazza_DJ wrote:Why didn't you post this in your existing thread? forums/viewtopic.php?t=194272&start=40

Really no need for multiple threads for the same thing.


Because I wanted to get as much evidence as I could before posting anything up buddy.

I can't afford to get everything sorted at once either I wish I could trust me.
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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

Post by SonicSW20 »

Right, so why didn't you just reply to your existing thread? having multiple threads running for the same issue isn't helping. You could also respond to Peter's response to your claims.
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Post by kennym »

Peter may be good or he may be terrible I just don't know

One thing I'm sure of is that I don't believe a word this guy says, he posts threads asking for advice then uses it to slag off sbits he comments on other threads then guess what he slags of sbits.

He went to sbits against advice with no method of payment.

Has anyone heard the saying "the lady she duth protest to much"

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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

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Gazza_DJ wrote:Right, so why didn't you just reply to your existing thread? having multiple threads running for the same issue isn't helping. You could also respond to Peter's response to your claims.


I've actually just seen Peters response actually, and as far as I can see it's just more of the same from him. Lies, twisting the facts, squirming. Same as he does whenever he is caught out it would appear.

And his personal deeply insecure dig hinting at me being a drug user says it all really let's be honest.

I might answer his questions if I can actually be ar$ed, and I'll pick his lies apart piece by piece but he will just come back with.....more lies!

Like him informing me that he would be away in his annual holiday at a certain date.

That I kept piling more work on him, complete pish. We sat down the night I stayed at his house, him with paper and pen and we went through exactly what was required and I wanted. That includes the sticky brake calipers and anything everything else I told him about even before I brought the car down to him. Lol.

And regardless of companies sending the incorrect parts and him being such an angel and packaging them up to be returned, there really weren't that many at all and the turnaround was never, ever more than a couple of days as I remember.

And Peter absolutley did state, the very next morning after being made fully aware of everything I knew that would need attention and ALL the extra work. That my car would be ready in 2 weeks.

So let's allow for the usual problems and issues, btw, Peter constantly told me there were zero, none, no serious issues at all with the swap.

I don't care what Peter says, as far as myself and many others are concerned we wouldn't believe the guy if he said it was going to get dark at some point tomorrow night.

Why don't you ask others that have been stung by him if they feel he is a truthful person, or have a look at their posts about how dissatisfied with his work and after sales, claimed warranties etc.

So again, I apologize for repeated threads about this claimed "specialists" work.

Now it's all going in a single thread on here, with some evidence to back up my claims and to those not suffering from cognitive dissonance, show what he is really like.
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Post by kennym »

Lol

Actually you speak like an actual retard in numerous actually rambling posts about the actual "socialist" then you throw in the googled term "cognitive dissonance" to make us think you're smart,..........it just gets better, im not a meat head honest lol

Sorry did I actually over use the word actually


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kennym wrote:Lol

Actually you speak like an actual retard…


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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

Post by markstevieandmads »

From the pics you posted, id say there wasnt much evidence there anyway

Can you tell if that pump is genuine or not? No
That clutch fluid pic... whats wrong with it? Looks clean to me
The text pic... the only pic of peter saying it worked ok for you... so what? What does that prove? He could of said bring it back in another text not shown.

You are really not doing yourself any favours rambling on.

By all means, im not sbits fan. The fact he hasnt responded to numerous other posts regarding his work sort of says the sort of person he is. Also the personal digs does him no justice either. Id def avoid him.
However thats not from your rambling post. Thats from others that have given a consistant report of what happened full stop. Not rambled on everyone elses post all over the internet. Just makes you look a bit of a twit tbh.

You havent paid a bill you owe
You havent taken any good legal steps to settle the dispute.

As far as i see, you just as much in the wrong unless you do the above.
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Hi
OK folks lets keep this less emotive please, no name calling "retard" is insulting, uncalled and unacceptable.


ALL posters keep it factual, without emotive commnents

we are all adults here lets behave as such

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Post by kennym »

With respect "like a retard" is a comparison therefore by definition its not name calling. ie "buster whine's like a little girl" is a comparison not actually calling him a little girl, however I can see how little girls could take offense.

However if there is anyone out there who's offended by the term retard as a reference to anyone with a mental impediment I do apologise for that.
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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

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I've "tidied up" and deleted some of my posts on here and the MROC as I was
Very angry and letting that emotion get in the way.

Some things I typed were totally unnecessary and some were personal attacks on Peter Gidden which is inexcusable and I sincerely apologise.

Anyway, I really would like to do this the correct way now as over time I will have more evidence and hopefully a full report from an independent garage.
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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

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Seeing as there is doubt about the pics of the fuel pump and fuel filter actually being the ones that were on my car after collecting it. The fuel filter and the fuel pump being just a picture I downloaded or perhaps I actually paid a garage to replace a brand new turbo fuel filter with an old N/A item and apparently fake, most likely Chinese copy 255 LPH instead of leaving the brand new and correct fuel filter and supposed brand new TRE 255 LPH fuel filter on the car.....

Here's a couple of pics of the original N/A fuel filter and what appears to be a cheap Chinese fuel pump that were removed and replaced with the correct items together on top of an Sbits invoice.

I really can't do much more,



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The garage repoet I have no doubt will confirm this also.
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Post by markstevieandmads »

so Peter has charged you for replacing this and he hasnt?

Any reply on this Peter? Charging for work that wasnt completed? I know he has done this before according to other people that have had "work" done by him.
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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

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markstevieandmads wrote:so Peter has charged you for replacing this and he hasnt?

Any reply on this Peter? Charging for work that wasnt completed? I know he has done this before according to other people that have had "work" done by him.



Sadly this seems to be the case.

The fuel filter that was on the car was exactly the same one that was on the car when I bought it. I was under the car in a pit in the guys garage checking stuff the day I bought it and numerous other times in the past three years when it's been up on ramps, I've changed the oil etc.

I was charged for supplying and fitting a new blueprint fuel filter and for a TRE 255 LPH fuel pump. Peter assured me that I was better going with a TRE rather than my preference of the usual Walbro 255 LPH. His reasons being "a TRE is cheaper, just as good if not better and quieter than a Walbro".

The garage that removed the fuel pump that my car had been fitted with said that the general fitting was a mess and as far as fuel pressure goes "you could p1$$ harder".

Hopefully next week I'll be able to start posting up invoices, pics and reports of some what has been found so far.
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Re: Peter Gidden of Sbits.

Post by markstevieandmads »

So he did replace the fuel pump? How can u tell the difference between the tre one he said and a chinese one then?
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