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alan_uk
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supercharged v6 what supercharger and were from

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Hi,

recently been looking in to converting my 2 to a 3.0l supercharged v6 rather than the turbo route

now i have searched everywere for sources to superchargers and cant find anything

so if anyone could help in regards to makes models and links or any other info would be great :)

thank you :thumleft:
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Re: supercharged v6 what supercharger and were from

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All depends which V6 you're talking about supercharging.
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This is what you want... look how many cars it's for:

http://www.rotrex.com/Home/Supercharger ... /Kits_Cars

Alfa Romeo 156 3.0 V6 would be nice!!!

Always wanted one of these kits. Cheap too.
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That's misleading, that site only offers the SC units, not bespoke fitting kits for individual cars, in other words you'd end up buying a Rotrex with no brakcets, pipework or plumbing.
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Here is a full kit:

http://www.power-enterprise.co.jp/rotre ... _mr-s.html

More kits:

http://www.rotrexsuperchargers.co.uk/Ro ... s2000.html

Check out this RS4 with a kit:

B7 rs4 fitted with a TTS performance Rotrex supercharger kit, installed and mapped by MRC tuning. Car is running around 620bhp and 630Nm. This run was 11..88 @ 124.07 mph. We actually managed an 11.71 @ 124.76mph but unfortunately didn't video that one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... u5Dhonpq_Q
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I'm not talking about just pipework, what use is a Rotrex unit if you can't bolt it to the engine, no brackets for it, no tensioner assembly, no longer belt, no air bypass assembly, no boost control and nowhere to actually fit it?

They are JUST supercharger units, not kits, a bit of pipework isn't going to install those.

Also there is very little space around a V6 to install a Rotrex, there are only two options unless it is run off a jack shaft, one is below the alternator and the other is just above the OS driveshaft, both areas are incredibly difficult to run intake and outlet plumbing to, believe me if it were that simple i would be the man doing it.

TRD produced the M62 unit in a special bolt on housing for the 1mz-fe engine, that is the only engine this charger technically "fits", i developed a ISCV adaptor body to allow it to fit a 3vz-fe engine with plumbing mods, but even then the TRD unit has serious drawbacks and limitations.
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moscoworbust wrote:Here is a full kit:

http://www.power-enterprise.co.jp/rotre ... _mr-s.html



Seeing as we're editing, that's a Mk3 kit, for the stock 1zz engine, there is no Rotrex kit for a Mk2 Mr2 with a V6, it all has to be custom made.
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They are all full kits.

Just select an engine with a kit.

Has he already picked an engine?
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was thinking about your camry conversion paul ive spoke to you many times regarding turbo just looking for alternative routes to take due to not being a huge fan of turbo power

and thinking a bit different
:)
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They are all full kits.

Just select an engine with a kit.

Has he already picked an engine?



Ok, find a complete bolt in Rotrex kit for a Mk2 V6 (any type of V6 you like) and i'll give you a million pounds..... go! :D
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Re: supercharged v6 what supercharger and were from

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Which Camry engine Alan, the 3vz or the 1mz?
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3vz mate :)
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+1 to everthing Paul has said!!
Please don't even consider buying one of those Rotrex superchargers unless you intend to change the entire shape o the engine bay - it simply won't fit. Even if it did fit you would have a complete mare trying to mate any of the parts to your engine!

I did a lot of research into this before I started down the V6 conversion route as I wanted the optiont to be available in the future. The only proper way to do it is to get a TRD supercharger.

For the best set up you want a 1MZ-FE (ideally VVTI) and then a TRD supercharger however none of that comes even remotely cheap and nor does the labour :thumleft:

My best advice is to speak to Peter or Paul for their best advice if its a conversion that your serious about :mrgreen:
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You're only real option is to try and find a 1mz TRD unit and bolt that on with my adaptor body, OR a scion TC vortec unit can be made to fit but it costs an absolute fortune to do.
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PW@Woodsport wrote:Ok, find a complete bolt in Rotrex kit for a Mk2 V6 (any type of V6 you like) and i'll give you a million pounds..... go! :D


Ah I get it.

You';re talking about this conversion. You have already chosen the engine.

http://www.woodsport.org/joomla/index.p ... onversions

I thought he was thinking about any V6.
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i am serious about it

like i say i almost went turbo after speaking to paul but have since decided seems i have a low mileage shell rev5 and im only the second owner and the shell is mint i wanted something special but preferably around £4-£4.5k if that is at all possible ?
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It wouldn't matter which V6 he chose to be honest, there is no Rotrex kit for any of them in a Mk2.
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Re: supercharged v6 what supercharger and were from

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Have you considered saving and getting a 2GR?

You certainly wouldn't get a supercharged 1MZ VVTI for anywhere near 4k :shock:
Selling up my highly modified and restored Rev 1 V6 3.0 1MZ-FE VVTi

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Alan to be honest that sort of budget is only going to get you a stock 1mz-fe V6 install, you'd need to double that to supercharge it with a NON TRD unit.... the Scion TC Vortec is the "easiest" route but still a big build.
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I would be very impressed if you could get the VVTI in on your budget :-k
A standard 1MZ maybe
A supercharger ... double your figures :lol:

Once you then start adding non stock items, modifying, LSDs etc... it will mount up a lot more :thumleft:
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