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KarlBristol




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1991 Toyota MR2 Mk2 V6

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Best v6 or v8 to buy? Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Well I think I've made up my mind to stick in an mr2 for a hobby car as I can't justify 50k on a cobra ... Not until I win the lottery at least! Lol. Once the house move and wedding are out of the way I think that an engine change might be on the cards...

Now don't get me wrong my current engine is faultless and runs like a dream. It's never failed to start, or ever missed a beat. It's just not meaty enough for me.

Ive looked at the options and most probably I will be looking out for a v6 or v8 (although I'd love a v12 the cost would be ridiculous)

I'm looking at having a garage install it on my behalf (probably woodsport)

What engines are the best to look out for?
And what car do I therefore need to look to buy to strip out. A good friend has told me about the Camry although looking around there don't seem to be many about [Think]

Anyone know how much roughly would a conversion cost me?

Thanks [thumleft]
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cosmos




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1999 Toyota MR2 Mk2 Turbo Rev5

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Conversion Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Hi Karl,
Bought my tubby from Bristol www.carimportsdirect.com or was it co.uk somewhere near the football ground Winterstoke Road?? ok to deal with Neil Howe.
Conversion... brakes upgrade perhaps as well as v6 etc you have to do the sums on what you can sell yours for now, and or conversion costs to your car, or buy a Lotus Espirit etc etc, plenty of good kit cars around nowadays also.
Plenty to think about.
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Race Idiot




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1994 Toyota MR2 Mk2 Turbo Rev3

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

I wouldnt bother with the camry motors, either go with a tubby lump or go with the 2GR-FE swap.

V8s or v12s are pretty unrealistic choices, seeing as there are like 3 v8 mr2s in the whole world. Wheras the 2gr-fe has been done several times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykq9-1RFrWo

Same motor as the lotus evora but used in a few other toyota/lexus platforms iirc. Make around 300 brake with just exhaust and intake mods [thumleft]
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jasongtr




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1993 Toyota MR2 Mk2 Turbo Rev2

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

if you go camry you wont need to upgrade the brakes, they are comparible with a rev1/2 std turbo.

personally if i was doing another conversion and money was no problem i would go 2gr (same engine as the lotus evora) but the conversion will cost almost ?10,000 - then its a serious consideration over what other car you can buy for the same outlay. It might be the ultimate NA mr2 with about 320-340hp but at the end of the day its still going to be an mr2 no matter how much we like them.

Spending money over the years on mods etc is more or less acceptable in my eyes but spending that sort of money in one hit could be a deal breaker (for me at least)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Audi v8 - would be awesome [Mr. Green]
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Al-sw20




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1991 Toyota MR2 Mk2 Turbo Rev1

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

2GR swapped SW20 here in NZ. Runs 12.5 @ 110mph with bolt ons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo41wPq3n5Q

278 rwhp.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Al-sw20 wrote:
2GR swapped SW20 here in NZ. Runs 12.5 @ 110mph with bolt ons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo41wPq3n5Q

278 rwhp.


2GR kicks ass lol
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

I'd go 2GR [thumleft]

Race Idiot wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykq9-1RFrWo



Lee's car is lovely, and sounds fantastic!
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1995 Toyota MR2 Mk2 Turbo Rev3

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Marf wrote:
I'd go 2GR [thumleft]

Race Idiot wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykq9-1RFrWo



Lee's car is lovely, and sounds fantastic!

yup, it certainly is and certainly does. It also bloody shifts as well, no lag , just boom and it's gone [thumleft]
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uglee




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1997 Toyota MR2 Mk2 V6

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Ta chaps, it has certainly suprised a few on the Pistonhead runs with how it goes. I just wish I had chance to use it more often [Very Happy]

I reckon it can be done for way less than ?10K. If there is another group buy over on Twobrutal I can easily see it been done for less than 5K if you start with a donor Turbo shell with a pumped engine.

See Chris (Cdwood2010) on Twobrutal if anyone is going to do it for as little as possible Chris is the man to do it [thumleft]
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jasongtr




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1993 Toyota MR2 Mk2 Turbo Rev2

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

im sure it can be done for less than ?10k but the OP wants a garage to do it so theres ?000's in labour - and he has an NA not a turbo

supercharged 2gr [Mr. Green] - anyone got one or doing one
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KarlBristol




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1991 Toyota MR2 Mk2 V6

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

jasongtr wrote:
im sure it can be done for less than ?10k but the OP wants a garage to do it so theres ?000's in labour - and he has an NA not a turbo

supercharged 2gr [Mr. Green] - anyone got one or doing one


I just figured that with all the electrics that will need changing, speedo, engine etc... It's outside of my capabilities and the last thing I want to do is kill my 2! Lol
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

theres plenty of help over on twobrutal as lee has said, lots of home build threads over there - not many will be 2gr though but still muchos help,
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Al-sw20




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1991 Toyota MR2 Mk2 Turbo Rev1

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Huge build thread here.

http://forums.toyspeed.org.nz/viewtopic.php?p=843492&highlight=#843492

Engine mount CAD's


https://rapidshare.com/files/1484343807/2grfe_lower_engine_mount_assembly.DXF

https://rapidshare.com/files/3241015863/2grfe_lower_engine_mount_base_REV_B.DXF

https://rapidshare.com/files/2047128650/2grfe_lower_engine_mount_tab.DXF

https://rapidshare.com/files/2141677420/2grfe_lower_engine_mount_rear_spacer.DXF
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1997 Toyota MR2 Mk2 V6

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

There is 3 homebuilds going on in the UK as far as I'm aware at the moment. I think mine was the 1st homebuild in the UK.

On cars mechanically the most I'd done was change a camshaft in an 84 VW Polo and electrically it was wiring in a car stereo. There is much more 2GR swap information available online than when I did it. And there is plenty of help from others who are more than willing to help out.

People spend too much time avoiding what they are probably more than capable of. Sometimes you've just got to throw yourself in at the deep end [thumleft]

BTW when the car fires up through your own efforts for the 1st time it's one of the best feelings ever [Cool]
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Race Idiot




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1994 Toyota MR2 Mk2 Turbo Rev3

PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Just out of curiosity i'd like to know what you did with the accelerator pedal, seeing as the 2gr is dbw. I remember reading the first thread with the guy, gouky i think? but I forgot what he did to get around the dbw issue.
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KarlBristol




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1991 Toyota MR2 Mk2 V6

PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Having done a lot of research I think I will go for a 1mz .. Although I'd love a 2gr they are serious money!! [thumleft]

Time to look at the bank books! Lol
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1993 Toyota MR2 Mk2 Turbo Rev2

PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

good man, go for it
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1990 Toyota MR2 Mk2 V6

PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

I'm doing a 2GR swap at home at the moment [Mr. Green]
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

whats the estmated build cost, got to be a serious consideration if my turbo motor pops, especially like lee said if it can be done for ?5k ish
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