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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
MR2 Rich wrote:Where does the money from membership go?


Into the IMOC bank account.


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And it gets spent on what?
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MR2 Rich wrote::clap:


You asked the question!

MR2 Rich wrote:And it gets spent on what?


IMOC is a Ltd. Co. So you, like any member of the public, can obtain a copy of the accounts from Co. House.

Start with server hosting fees, JAE and Japfest.
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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
MR2 Rich wrote::clap:


You asked the question!

MR2 Rich wrote:And it gets spent on what?


IMOC is a Ltd. Co. So you, like any member of the public, can obtain a copy of the accounts from Co. House.

Start with server hosting fees, JAE and Japfest.


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Who is/are the Director(s) of IMOC ltd?
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I've drove the Scooby in the google streetview, nearly swapped it for my tubby a couple of years ago, guess it accounts for his flashy rolex and turning up in a helicopter :lol:
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MR2 Rich wrote:So does Lauren actually own and run IMOC? Where does the money from membership go?


I am one of the directors. There are four of us. Toni, Patrick and Scott are the others.

IMOC is a non-profit limited company. We are a limited company because of a certain idiot trader who made stupid threats historically. We became a limited company simply to protect ourselves as a result of misguided supposed legal threats from said trader. Also becoming a limited company made it a bit easier to deal with traders and manage our income and ensure all monies are kept within the company. So practically speaking as well as limiting our liability it was the obvious thing to do.

None of us profit from IMOC. If anything it has cost us all money over the years! I've never claimed expenses for any travelling I've done on behalf of the club and IMOC still owes me £25 for the stamps for JAE. Obviously any time I give as with the other directors and volunteers who run the club is free.

The money goes into paying for servers for the forum as well as events such as JAE. We also have to pay for liability insurance etc.

I'm sure our accountant/secretary can give you a break down of where money goes.
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The biggest expense by a country mile is JAE. Where a member pays for his/her entrance ticket for the show at face value, the cost of the pitch, the hire of the marquee, generators, furniture and of course the Hog Roast is all laid on for free. How long this will be sustainable remains to be seen. Membership numbers have stayed static for a while and we have valued members paying the £7.50 (of which we only get £7.04 after PayPal fees). This keeps the club afloat as well as our great affiliates and the fees they pay to trade on IMOC.
As others have pointed out we then pay server fees, legal fees, accountancy fees, liability insurance (for shows, in case the gazebo should blow over and smash someone's car etc), the list is endless...so we pretty much break even every year.

I am all for renewing the forum and we started talks again earlier this year to take us to the latest version of phpBB or migrating to VBulletin. Hopefully this will take us somewhere, but money is the issue. We will see. If it means ditching the 'Garage' feature then so be it. I think it will only be missed in the short term. If we added newer functionality, in line with today's technology such as tapatalk...then I can only see this as a good thing.

At the end of the day..IMOC does not belong to one person. Yes it is controlled by 4 directors, me as Chairman (elected by existing mods and admin), and Lauren as current vice chair( but she has pretty much stepped down in this role now), the admin and of course the moderators....but IMOC belongs to the members. Its you who make it what it is...its you that keeps the forum alive...its you that makes IMOC what it is today.
In the mod/admin world its a democratic society. Not even me as Chair and Director can make a decision without first conferring with others.
Occasionally we open up the doors and recruit new mods, when existing move on or step down due to time issues. Being a mod is a thankless task trust me!

If I was chair when the subject of transplanting different engines into MR2's I tell you now I would have welcomed it. I am all for innovation and progression. But what's done is done. IMOC, OC, TwoBrutal...we all have fantastic followings, and there is no reason why this cant continue. I am a member of all 3, as I would imagine most members are.

This years Japfest is tribute to the MR2 scene.. Over 50 MR2's will be gatherd on one stand, under each clubs own banner...it should make for a great spectacle.

Long live IMOC. Long love the MR2. :mrgreen:

Oh...and get yourself to this years JAE and feast on some free Hog Roast.. ;-)
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so, does this mean no upgrades to the forum and it stays as is til the end of time(s)??
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raptor95GTS wrote:so, does this mean no upgrades to the forum and it stays as is til the end of time(s)??


I never said that? :-k
I said we are currently discussing it....we are looking at options at present to see what the best fit for the forum/club is going forward.
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nope, you didn't but the topic went into how the money was spent so I thought I'd nudge it back :) Appreciate the clarification and looking forward to the changes :thumleft:
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Can't believe some members are questioning the few quid a year. IMOC is a great forum and it's helped me massively with my MR2's - from buying and selling parts to finding faults and fixing them, as well as meeting other car nuts of course!

And I think that a subsection for the 5SGTE would be a good idea - if members want to read about it then they can click the link, and it'll help to reduce the strain on the General MK2 subsection :lol: If anything, I've never particularly liked the search function. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong but it never seems to find anything remotely similar to what I'm after - if other users find that this is the case then this could explain why the same topics are always being brought up again and again..

Thanks again to those responsible for the maintenance of IMOC - I've moderated a relatively small local car enthusiast club and know how time-consuming and stressful it can be! So keep up the good work :thumleft:
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Mr.Two wrote:Can't believe some members are questioning the few quid a year.


That's the way life is nowadays. Not many years ago members would happily pay a small fee in return for getting the information needed to get their car back on the road in double quick time.

Unfortunately, it's now "take what you can get, give nothing, and take a little bit more".

If it were me, i'd make:

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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
Mr.Two wrote:Can't believe some members are questioning the few quid a year.


That's the way life is nowadays. Not many years ago members would happily pay a small fee in return for getting the information needed to get their car back on the road in double quick time.

Unfortunately, it's now "take what you can get, give nothing, and take a little bit more".
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Agreed. And in bold, nail/head.

I would have nothing against a 5S-GTE section personally.
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MR2 Turbo Boy wrote:Just wondering if we could start a 5S-GTE - section..

Seems a few members are changing over... :whistle:

Cheers

Jon


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Do you reckon Ash..

Cheers, for getting the heater matrix, out from the MR2 at Pete's yesterday morning.. :clap:
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MR2 Turbo Boy wrote:Do you reckon Ash..

Cheers, for getting the heater matrix, out from the MR2 at Pete's yesterday morning.. :clap:


Just keeping up the grumpy front :mrgreen:

No problem mate- hope you made good progress :thumleft:
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RedMR² wrote:

I would have nothing against a 5S-GTE section personally.


I think a sub forum in the mk2 section would be great, so why are we just talking about it ? :?
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Post by PW@Woodsport »

How many 5s-gte cars are there in the UK? I bet that number is less than 5.

We've spawned a whole V6 marque with literally hundreds of cars built, not to mention the dozens of Mk1 turbos etc yet no section for those which have a huge interest and following across the world.

If Imoc are going to have a new subsection it needs to be for all engine converted Mr2s, not just for the handful of 5s-gte builds.
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since this topic was created, how many 5sgte topics have been created? hardly any..

it would be as empty as the mk3 section :mrgreen:

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